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Old 12-25-2021, 07:12 AM
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It is sad this happened but amazing that somehow we should feel sorry for the no good hoodlum who was up to no good in his life and was shot.

Not as if the officer has plenty of time to make a decision with their life in serious jeopardy.
Not just shot....killed. So if you commit crimes in your past it is OK to kill you later on? Oh please! She made a mistake....but a deadly one. It is her job to know the difference between a taser and a gun! And, yes, sometimes doctors go to jail if they are grossly negligent like this woman was here.
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:20 AM
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I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.
You are totally correct!!!!!!!
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:25 AM
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But look, he got stopped because of a vehicle issue, then didn't have the right documentation, then found out he had an outstanding warrant, then started to resist. So it wasn't like he was targeted and pulled over on a Suday drive to grandma's. I have a brother who is retired law enforcement, and he told me that its something like 50% of minorities who have motor vehicle compliance issues, then no insurance or expired registration, or outstanding bench warrants for child support, missed court dates etc. Then they get belligerant when you question them.
No it is exactly like that if but for the air freshener and being black he would not of been pulled over. Not questioning if he should of been arrested for the warrant he should of been but not shot even by accident.
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:26 AM
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Keyboard comments are interesting. If you feel the conviction is warranted walk in an officers shoes. Then rethink your conviction. Terrible, tragic mistake but that is what it was a mistake
Walk in a person of color shoes. Don’t give me that. She knew what the hell she was doing. If you don’t know the difference between a teaser and a gun you shouldn’t be a police officer. How can she be a training officer.
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:32 AM
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moving to another state will work, I moved from Illinois,
every day it is becoming more and more the "liberal Paradise" I had a card carrying liberal next door who told me he was considering moving after listing all the on going and increasing problems state wide, my response was "and then you will vote to do there what you have done here?"
You're not supposed to be making "political" statements. I myself have been penalized for saying less.
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:38 AM
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Mikenbats66 help me out here... why exactly do you feel that females should not be street cops?
I would not say she should not have been a cop, but she should not have been in a role that required a firearm. The problem in our society is that we have too many guns (more guns by 25 percent than people) and this has made the role of police officer much more stressful and dangerous. Consequently, as gun ownership goes up, there are more of these unnecessary and tragic shootings by police.
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:41 AM
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In regards to the original post, while surgeons are not held criminally liable for a mistake, they are held monetarily liable by civil law.

Law enforcement personnel have financial immunity if they make a mistake in most cases so they can only be held liable criminally.

Hmmm, so perhaps a good discussion would be should law enforcement personnel be treated like surgeons.

Should police officers lose qualified immunity in exchange for criminal immunity?
Maybe cops should carry malpractice insurance.
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Old 12-25-2021, 08:18 AM
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That sounds sexist.
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What would have happened if she did not have a taser ?
Tasers only became common in past 35 years.
Another reason not to have females as street cops .
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Old 12-25-2021, 08:20 AM
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surgeons lose millions in malpractice law suits and get uncertified as doctors
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Old 12-25-2021, 08:32 AM
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If the young man had simply complied with the traffic stop and not started the scuffle, and if the officer had pulled her taser instead of her gun this would not have been in the news and she would still have her career and her pension. As the footage shows, she was immediately horrified at what had happened. I do not believe she deserves jail time....very sad.




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I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.
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Old 12-25-2021, 08:41 AM
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I could not have voted to convict. She was doing her job, and made a mistake. Surgeons make mistakes that result in death, but they never go to jail.
Poor analogy. Surgeons work to save lives at all times. Medical mistakes are covered by insurance. Horribly bad judgement gets medical practitioners banned and they do get jail time
This officer states that she grabbed her gun instead of her taser. I own neither but I’m sure I could tell the difference without looking, just by holding them. Also, I’m sure that the gun belongs in a certain place on their belt as does the taser. Officers should know the difference. Lastly, she fired, knowingly and willingly. I’m sure there are many instances where an office is accused of excessive force when they should not be. I don’t believe that this is one of those cases.

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Old 12-25-2021, 09:24 AM
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Maybe cops should carry malpractice insurance.
And how much would salaries increase to cover the cost of the insurance?
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Old 12-25-2021, 09:37 AM
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I have read all of the responses and agreed with maybe three points of realistic views. The remainder smack of racism. Kim Potter showed how she was incompetent to be a police officer. She was an instructor for new recruits and stated at trial that the original officers should have never stopped the car for a minor violation (they were told not to stop cars because of the possible exposure to covid). Brown and black people are stopped all the time because of racist cops and fear for their lives because of trigger happy police. That is probably why he tried to flee. If you think she should go free, then I feel Rittenhouse should be in jail for life! Someone said police are not paid enough, which is not true. Police are paid plenty and can retire at full retirement at 20 years, not to mention that they have civil immunity for their actions. There are some good police personnel but they are in the minority. Too many of the bad ones came out of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars - macho trigger happy "warriors".
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Old 12-25-2021, 09:52 AM
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“Doctors make mistakes but don’t go to jail”, unless they are charge criminally. Watch “Dr Death” or read the magazine article. Officer Potter made a grave mistake. Very different than the story I have referenced.
My husband and I were discussing this just last night. Police officers would benefit from this type malpractice system in their profession, too. If their actions rise to level of criminal than so be it. I do have sympathy for this woman but will say this was a shockingly rookie mistake for a 26 year veteran. Unless you do “life and death” everyday, it’s really difficult to have the skill set to empathize w what split second decision means. It’s different when you can converse about it than when you are in the situation.
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Old 12-25-2021, 09:55 AM
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[QUOTE=jammaiora;2042801 There are some good police personnel but they are in the minority. [/QUOTE]

Some? So in your expert opinion is it greater than 5%?
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