[llmcdaniel]

Oregon has used strictly vote by mail for 20 years. When one first registers, a signature and picture ID are required. When people marry, die, change addresses, etc. this info is forwarded to the Elections Dept of that county. When my mother died, we notified the Elections Dept with a Death Certificate so that her name was removed. The funeral home provided us with a paper of all the organizations that needed notification, and the Election Dept was on that list. We were told, also, that death notices in the local paper were used for info, too. We always appreciated being able to comfortably sit at home, study our voter’s pamphlet, and vote. Then, we signed the secret envelope, our signature was compared with the original, and we were through. It was easy to see that no one else had voted using our name, AND we had oaper back ups to help prevent fraud. None of this hanging chad crap!!

[Lindsyburnsy]

"Lots of people" "many people are saying" "I hear from everyone" Who are all of these "people" that want non-citizens to vote? This is all BS. Rumor and scare tactics. Voting by mail is the way to go.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The highlighted portion in your post above (if it's "all over" the internet, it must be true) made me laugh out loud...so thanx for that.

Most of the news we see these days are from the internet. The sources I cited were extremely credible which is why you try to dismiss it with a lame attempt at humor. People read your posts on the internet. Does that mean your opinions have no credibility?

You had to respond in this fashion because you could not refute or debunk any story I listed as they were credible and non partisan websites.

But here is another one that just happened recently. You are going to have to use the internet to read it. It is ironclad proof of how elections can be corrupted with mail in ballots. And the aggrieved are overwhelmingly in the class of people that you claim to be the guardian over.

NJ NAACP Leader Calls For Paterson Mail-In Vote to Be Canceled Amid Corruption Claims – NBC New York

Paterson activist Ernest Rucker said his experience this election is an example of the kind of corruption that allegedly took place. Rucker said he never received a ballot but that election records show someone mailed in a ballot in his name.

In addition to apparent problems with the vote count in Paterson, NBC New York has shown video of ballots left out in building lobbies, of one voter handling many ballots, and reported on postal workers reporting finding hundreds of ballots at a time stuffed in mailboxes in Paterson – and even in a neighboring town, Haledon.

Wimberly said he is a supporter of Gov. Murphy but given the history of vote-by-mail controversies, the governor should have done more to allow in-person voting and to ensure safeguards were in place for those ballots sent by mail. That one in five ballots were eliminated, some due to alleged corruption, Wimberly said he was "fed up with this … That’s how you disenfranchise voters. That’s the bottom line.

“It is what is right for the people,” Wimberly said. “We need in-person voting machines with social distancing.

If you desire vote by mail elections free of fraud and incompetence, the solution is simple. Since signature verification is very unreliable everyone sets up a pin or password that has to be on the ballot. And it needs to be verified by at least two monitors from different political parties before the ballot it is counted. And then voters can go online and see if their vote was counted or invalidated. We have the technology to do this. And outlaw ballot harvesting with only immediate relatives or legal guardians able to assist in voting.

I would support this as it would be much cheaper and eliminate the need for recruiting volunteers for the polls.

[ithos]

Paterson NJ election included ballots from out-of-towners and the dead

Just more proof that Signature Verifications are a lousy way to validate ballots.

The most common reason for the votes’ disqualification was that election officials decided the signatures on the ballots didn’t match those on file in voter registration records. The report listed 1,214 rejections because of ballot signatures, which accounted for 37 percent of all those that were disqualified.

I give them credit. They stopped the dead people from voting.

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by big guy

This article is too long and dreadfully verbose and confusing. Why should it be so hard to vote? It's a constitutional right! They know that there has been tampering with voting machines, there is less chance to tamper with voting by mail. It's been done since the civil war. Ballots are sent to every military personel in the US and abroad. No standing in line, no babysitter needed, no chance of being exposed to coronavirus. Those ballots are as safe as our Social Security checks, tax checks, personal checks, look at all the years we have paid bills by checks through the mail. We receive pay checks through the mail, transactions are carried on through the mail. Not safe? Baloney! A Democratic method of getting more votes? Double baloney!

There is evidence that demonstrates there is not a partisan advantage of voting by mail. While the availability of vote-by-mail ballots increases voter turnout by 1.9 to 2.4 percentage points, the voting method does not increase the share of turnout for either Democrats or Republicans, according to researchers.

A study by Stanford University’s Democracy and Polarization Lab compared counties with vote-by-mail programs to those without in the same state. The authors concluded that vote-by-mail programs have "no discernible effect on party vote shares or the partisan share of the electorate.”

Five states have all-mail elections: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington. According to Ballotpedia, 29 states and DC allow voters to cast an absentee ballot for any reason, while 16 states require a valid excuse for requesting to mail in a ballot.

During the COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic, concerns about the safety of in-person polling places have been raised for the 2020 federal election in November, as well as for summer primary elections. At least 40 people who voted at the Milwaukee polls in Wisconsin's Apr. 7, 2020 primary election have tested positive for coronavirus, raising concerns that voters were forced to put their health at risk to participate in the election.

On Apr. 24, 2020, the governors of New York and Kentucky signed executive orders requiring that every resident be sent an application for vote-by-mail ballots for the states’ summer elections.

Your post are exactly the words that the bobbing heads on CNN are saying and we ALL now their intentions...
If you can make trips to play your card games at a rec center you differently should be able to make just one more to cast a vote....
How many here are getting the virus from going to the supermarket, playing golf or any other social distancing activities. So why can't you or they social distance waiting on line to vote?

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

"Lots of people" "many people are saying" "I hear from everyone" Who are all of these "people" that want non-citizens to vote? This is all BS. Rumor and scare tactics. Voting by mail is the way to go.

Thank you for YOUR opinion....

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

This shouldn’t have become a political difference issue, the only fact I see and question was , why if 57.2million voted early in last presidential election why it wrong for early ballots to be sent out know especially with the possibility of the virus coming back . . Now that I think of it maybe I’m wrong about the political issue with this considering that black and brown communities were hit the worst outside of nursing homes

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No one asked for my ID when I voted in the primaries this past year. In person, at the Paradise Rec Center. I gave them my name and address, they smiled and waved me over to another table, where a woman pointed to one of the empty spots at the table where I could fill in my ballot.

I didn't have to show ID or sign anything to match signatures, or give them my birthdate or anything else to indicate that I really was who I said I was.

And therein lies the problem. You should have been asked and should have been verified. Under that scenario, any other person of the same sex could walk in, give your name and address, and steal your vote. Not saying it WOULD happen, but it COULD happen. And that is why this whole issue needs to be carefully thought out. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

This shouldn’t have become a political difference issue, the only fact I see and question was , why if 57.2million voted early in last presidential election why it wrong for early ballots to be sent out know especially with the possibility of the virus coming back . . Now that I think of it maybe I’m wrong about the political issue with this considering that black and brown communities were hit the worst outside of nursing homes

Why would you say it should not be a political issue when the voting involves two different political parties...
Their are reasons why the Black, Brown and Elderly communities were hit the hardest with the Corona Virus...
- Besides "Poor Health" like "Obesity", "Diabetes" and not following "Social-Distancing" guidelines this comes into play the most: See Picture below.....

[Marvic 1]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

And therein lies the problem. You should have been asked and should have been verified. Under that scenario, any other person of the same sex could walk in, give your name and address, and steal your vote. Not saying it WOULD happen, but it COULD happen. And that is why this whole issue needs to be carefully thought out. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Just think of it, they didn't check OrangeBlossomBaby ID when they should of.
So who going to check when: The millions of “Mail in Votes” that will be dump just before closing time to be signature checked and verified, ... No-One!

[banjobob]

I am sure voter fraud is done on both sides but it seems the Democrats are always the ones that have the shadow of fraud on their actions, I guess we have crooked Hillary the fiasco that happens at every election in Miami/ Dade and the Obama scandals to blame. Or maybe it is Democrats only trying to steal elections.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by banjobob

I am sure voter fraud is done on both sides but it seems the Democrats are always the ones that have the shadow of fraud on their actions, I guess we have crooked Hillary the fiasco that happens at every election in Miami/ Dade and the Obama scandals to blame. Or maybe it is Democrats only trying to steal elections.

Well, if the shoe fits...….

Remember Cook County, 1960

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Well, if the shoe fits...….

Remember Cook County, 1960

Oops, wanna try again?

North Carolina Republican operative charged in election fraud scheme - Reuters

Opinion | Voter Fraud Is Part of the Republican Playbook - The New York Times

Republican Voter Fraud - Voter Fraud Facts

1. People who have issues getting their vote cast do to mobility, identification, work schedules and economic standing are disproportionately voters who will vote for the Democratic party.

Republicans know that when everyone votes they lose. In fact the less people who vote the higher chances they have of winning.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by ithos

Most of the news we see these days are from the internet. The sources I cited were extremely credible which is why you try to dismiss it with a lame attempt at humor. People read your posts on the internet. Does that mean your opinions have no credibility?

You had to respond in this fashion because you could not refute or debunk any story I listed as they were credible and non partisan websites.

But here is another one that just happened recently. You are going to have to use the internet to read it. It is ironclad proof of how elections can be corrupted with mail in ballots. And the aggrieved are overwhelmingly in the class of people that you claim to be the guardian over.

NJ NAACP Leader Calls For Paterson Mail-In Vote to Be Canceled Amid Corruption Claims – NBC New York

Paterson activist Ernest Rucker said his experience this election is an example of the kind of corruption that allegedly took place. Rucker said he never received a ballot but that election records show someone mailed in a ballot in his name.

In addition to apparent problems with the vote count in Paterson, NBC New York has shown video of ballots left out in building lobbies, of one voter handling many ballots, and reported on postal workers reporting finding hundreds of ballots at a time stuffed in mailboxes in Paterson – and even in a neighboring town, Haledon.

Wimberly said he is a supporter of Gov. Murphy but given the history of vote-by-mail controversies, the governor should have done more to allow in-person voting and to ensure safeguards were in place for those ballots sent by mail. That one in five ballots were eliminated, some due to alleged corruption, Wimberly said he was "fed up with this … That’s how you disenfranchise voters. That’s the bottom line.

“It is what is right for the people,” Wimberly said. “We need in-person voting machines with social distancing.

If you desire vote by mail elections free of fraud and incompetence, the solution is simple. Since signature verification is very unreliable everyone sets up a pin or password that has to be on the ballot. And it needs to be verified by at least two monitors from different political parties before the ballot it is counted. And then voters can go online and see if their vote was counted or invalidated. We have the technology to do this. And outlaw ballot harvesting with only immediate relatives or legal guardians able to assist in voting.

I would support this as it would be much cheaper and eliminate the need for recruiting volunteers for the polls.

That commission that lasted 5 months that was looking into voter fraud, and the "millions" of illegals who voted in California. Also they mentioned all the fraud "everywhere" in the country.

I suppose you are saying, they found nothing because they failed to check YouTube or the internet. Interesting

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Bucco

That commission that lasted 5 months that was looking into voter fraud, and the "millions" of illegals who voted in California. Also they mentioned all the fraud "everywhere" in the country.

It was bipartisan and yet, was disbanded because absolutely NO evidence of widespread voter fraud...was found.

The abandonment, in embarrassing disgrace of this lie, is analogous to a line in a famous poem that goes..."Not with a bang, but a whimper."

Originally Posted by Bucco

I suppose you are saying, they found nothing because they failed to check YouTube or the internet. Interesting

OH SNAP!