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Old 08-17-2020, 07:24 AM
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:25 AM
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I have already heard from people I know that mail in ballots have been sent to dead people, that people that have moved out of state, or just moved towns. Those ballots are now sitting around waiting from someone to fill out and send in. Don't think that is very safe.
The signatures won’t match
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:26 AM
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For reliable information concerning voter fraud visit www.judicialwatch.com. Tom Fitton is a non-partisan watch dog that could easily be labeled a “pit bull”
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:27 AM
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In Clark County, Nevada they did this for the primary this year and 223,000 ballots were not able to be counted.
223,000 ballots not counted? I'd suggest someone do a bit more research on that. 200,000 ballots were returned as "undeliverable" and just over 10,000 ballots that were returned were not able to be counted for very specific reasons. Claiming that a ballot that was undeliverable was "not counted" is a gross mischaracterization of the actual facts.

Indy Analysis: What led to thousands of uncounted ballots in Nevada’s 2020 primary election?
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:28 AM
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Because at least in Florida, THERE IS NO UNSOLICITED BALLOTS.

It's not a thing, here.

No one is getting an actual ballot, unless they have actually requested one.

What is being unsolicited is a "request for ballot" form. Registered voters are getting them in the mail. You STILL can't vote by mail if you get one of these forms. You have to physically fill it out, and physically return that form to the Supervisor of Elections, and you have to wait for them to verify it and then mail you the physical ballot. And THEN you can fill that in and mail it in.

YOU have to ask THEM for the ballot. There are two things going on here:

Request for Ballot Form

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Ballot.

The former is being sent to registered voters, unsolicited.
The latter MUST be requested from the voter, using that form.
EXACTLY. Same in Massachusetts, ballot requests are sent out and signature, bar code checked same as absentee. Get rid of all unless in person.
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:28 AM
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Mail-in voting worked great in Colorado and I don’t remember anyone making a big stink out of fraud. And, being a purple state, one would think that the losers would scream “fraud!” but I don’t remember that ever happening.

For those who say it is different from absentee, I don’t get it. We had to request it when we registered. Do some people die after the request? Sure, just like they might after requesting an absentee ballot. But, there are safeguards in place. Signatures are checked. This year, I logged into the Sumter site to request a ballot. When I sent mine in, I checked the box that said I wanted ballots for future elections.

This is just an attempt to disenfranchise voters. I doubt any of us are single parents raising kids while working two or three minimum-wage jobs. People in that position can’t afford to take time off from work (if they are even allowed!). Mail-in voting allows them to have a say in our government. It doesn’t make any difference how they found themselves in that situation. We retired people can smugly sit in our nice houses as we look down our noses at them, but they have just as much right to vote as we do.
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:30 AM
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How do you define a registered voter? There are people who are listed as registered voters, but who no longer live at the same address, have left the state, have committed felonies, live some place where other people have access to their mail, or they are dead. That is the problem with mail in voting. I consider myself in my right mind, but I have a huge problem with mail in voting. I don't have a problem with absentee voting, if the voter has sent in a specific request for a ballot with verifiable information that they are eligible to vote.
If someone has committed a felony, they won’t be a registered voter. In Florida, you have to request a ballot, they don’t just send it to everyone and you have to ask again after so many years and utilize it or they won’t send it to you again. Very safe in Florida
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:37 AM
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if you believe these proposed general mail-in ballots are the same as current requested absentee ballots, you should also believe in voter identification.
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:47 AM
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I'm in my right mind and I can assure you that mail in voting will be a "Train Crash" if anyone is healthly enough to go out of their hose and fuel up their car or pick up groceries, as important as this election is then "get Out and Vote"!
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:55 AM
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And just how do you expect the Post Officd to know who is a registered voter or not? If some one or some Party delivers ballots to be mailed out, the Post Office is going to mail them. Atty. General Barr just said that he had 23 relatives who received ballots from California who no longer live in the State.
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Old 08-17-2020, 08:03 AM
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223,000 ballots not counted? I'd suggest someone do a bit more research on that. 200,000 ballots were returned as "undeliverable" and just over 10,000 ballots that were returned were not able to be counted for very specific reasons. Claiming that a ballot that was undeliverable was "not counted" is a gross mischaracterization of the actual facts.

Indy Analysis: What led to thousands of uncounted ballots in Nevada’s 2020 primary election?
GoPacers,
You made it very clear that MAIL-IN-BALLOT voting does NOT work..
Thank you for your input!
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Everyone has heard about fraud being perpetrated on different government bodies, but somehow that won't happen with mail-in ballots. Yeah, right.

We keep being told that masks and social distancing work, so there is no reason not to vote in person or absentee if you're afraid to go out. Check this out

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Old 08-17-2020, 08:17 AM
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But, someone can show up at the poll using the dead person's name. It has happened many times in some states.
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Old 08-17-2020, 08:21 AM
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My deceased grandfather has voted in 2 elections now. I’m trying to find out who in NJ got ahold of his absentee ballot - the signature is not the same but the county clerk apparently does not verify
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Old 08-17-2020, 08:23 AM
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As a Virginia Assistant Precient Chief I offer an educated opinion.
Mail in and absentee voting are different. Absentee requires a legitimate reason and mail in does not. A big risk to mail in is many,probably hunreds of thousands of votes, may not count. During in person voting a huge number of people make mistakes, marking ballots wrong, voting for 2 or for the wrong person and trying to mark out one, accidentally putting pen tip on ballot, etc. We catch that when they deposit the ballot in the DS200 and it gets rejected. Results, spoiled ballot and a chance at a do over. Mail in, as well as absentee, ballots get ONE CHANCE ONLY! Screw up and your ballot is not counted!! I have seen very intelligent people mess it up. Imagine hundreds of thousands of errors.
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