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Old 07-01-2023, 08:49 AM
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Cool, I can now bring my sig down to Florida and put it in the bed stand drawer instead of a tomahawk. I feel safer already if someone breaks into the house in the middle of the night : )
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Very scary new law. Gun permits are no longer required in Florida. There is still a waiting period to purchase a handgun if you don't have a CCW. Got to be a nightmare for Law Enforcement. Every person they stop is a potential shooter.
What part of the new law do you find "Very scary"? Police already view everyone as a potential shooter. It's part of their training.
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A criminal will carry a gun without hesitation, law abiding citizens should have the same right. Equal footing as far as I can see.
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:05 AM
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I'm worried about all the old drunks in The Villages who can now carry guns. Can you think road rage?
If "you" are drunk and carrying a gun, "you" have not been waiting for this change in law........drunk & carrying are not law abiding citizens.
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Every person they stop is a potential shooter.
If you mean stopped for speeding, they stopped that years ago.
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If you can’t protect yourself, your family, your property, who is going to do that? The police? They aren’t there to protect you. When seconds count, the police are minutes away. The only people who are in danger Florida’s stand your ground law are criminals. I have zero sympathy or compassion for them.
A young mother and her son approach a neighbor to apologize for her kids encroaching on the neighbors property and she is shot dead. Shot fired thru a closed door……..defense stand your ground. Yep a criminal in danger………….
I have zero sympathy for the old lady with a gun!
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:22 AM
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Police already view everyone as a potential shooter. It's part of their training.
So is pulling speeders over part of their training.
They must have missed the memo.
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Old 07-01-2023, 09:39 AM
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Very scary new law. Gun permits are no longer required in Florida. There is still a waiting period to purchase a handgun if you don't have a CCW. Got to be a nightmare for Law Enforcement. Every person they stop is a potential shooter.
Why are people so obsessed with guns?

The key for safe communities is to have effective law and order. More gun control means the ratio of bad guys with guns over good citizens with guns goes up.

If you are afraid of guns then here is a tip. Don't live in any of these cities at the top of this list.
Highest murder rates in the U.S. - The most deadly cities

The key to lowering gun crime is to wipe out generational poverty caused by terrible government policies. No child should be deprived of a quality education in a safe neighborhood.

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A young mother and her son approach a neighbor to apologize for her kids encroaching on the neighbors property and she is shot dead. Shot fired thru a closed door……..defense stand your ground. Yep a criminal in danger………….
I have zero sympathy for the old lady with a gun!
This does happen unfortunately. The inverse is far more likely to happen. I am armed and will do whatever I have to in order to protect me and my wife from personal injury or death.
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Why are people so obsessed with guns?

The key for safe communities is to have effective law and order. More gun control means the ratio of bad guys with guns over good citizens with guns goes up.

If you are afraid of guns then here is a tip. Don't live in any of these cities at the top of this list.
Highest murder rates in the U.S. - The most deadly cities

The key to lowering gun crime is to wipe out generational poverty caused by terrible government policies. No child should be deprived of a quality education in a safe neighborhood.
The key to safe communities is to remove the revolving doors at the courthouse that let criminals back out on the street. We also need to elect district attorneys who will enforce the law and not be a puppet for the likes of George Soros.

Anyone who buys a gun and then skips the most important part, learning how and when to use that gun, is asking for a world of hurt.
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What part of the new law do you find "Very scary"? Police already view everyone as a potential shooter. It's part of their training.
To answer your question, Gun permits are no longer required in Florida.
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To answer your question, Gun permits are no longer required in Florida.
Continue.............& why is that scary??
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This does happen unfortunately. The inverse is far more likely to happen. I am armed and will do whatever I have to in order to protect me and my wife from personal injury or death.
"unfortunately?" I suspect it is "unfortunate" right up until you are related to the person on the receiving end. Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect you will find a different term to describe it then.

I have no problem with protecting oneself from personal injury or death but shooting through a closed door, shooting through the back window of a car, shooting at a young person because he is black, or shooting 30 rounds through a sliding door without seeing if anyone is on the other side is not protecting oneself. No, it doesn't happen often but again, if you or someone you care about is on the receiving end then I suspect it will feel like it happens too much.
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Continue.............& why is that scary??
If they never prevented anyone from obtaining a permit then why were they seen as a problem in the first place?

If they *did* prevent some from obtaining a permit then it's scary that those people may now be carrying a weapon.

At the very minimum (and I think it was a minimum) there should have been training on the laws and responsibilities for carrying a weapon. Seeing some of the incidents around the country these days, ANY awareness training might save an innocent person's life.
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"unfortunately?" I suspect it is "unfortunate" right up until you are related to the person on the receiving end. Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect you will find a different term to describe it then.

I have no problem with protecting oneself from personal injury or death but shooting through a closed door, shooting through the back window of a car, shooting at a young person because he is black, or shooting 30 rounds through a sliding door without seeing if anyone is on the other side is not protecting oneself. No, it doesn't happen often but again, if you or someone you care about is on the receiving end then I suspect it will feel like it happens too much.
All common sense observations. First rule. Know your target. Shooting through a door will not accomplish that. All the other scenarios are talked about during the classroom portion for obtaining a carry permit. I am all for gun safety training.
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