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Old 07-11-2020, 08:44 AM
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I don't care how calm the times are or what George Floyd had done in the past ... Derek Chauvin is a bad cop... who the hell kneels on someones kneck for 8 minutes when they have the person handcuffed and under control ... he belongs in jail for the rest of his life IMO
It is about time this bad cop is locked up, Sadly there’s folks out there thinking he should get off I’ll assume they are former law officers. I’m hoping all involved in that murder end up in prison and in general population. Then justice will be served. And NO I am not a person angry at our fine men in law enforcement that we pay to enforce the law,
I’m sickened by the ones that try to protect the ones that are corrupt and dirty. They seem to forget what goes around comes around if another officer breaks the law its their duty to uphold the law. But from the beginning they’re taught to look the other way and don’t cross that blue line.
That makes them as corrupt as their brother.
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True enough; nothing in the linked article was in quotes except when Leslie Stahl or Chief Arradondo were actually quoting someone else, just like in the 2 excerpts you included below. It turns out that the quote was actually from narration by Leslie Stahl (as opposed to the Q&A), which was not apparent in the transcript of the interview. The 2nd quote you included below says basically the same thing in the Chief's own words.
The Chief may or may not be called to testify at the trials. I'm sure the defense lawyers will use whatever video & witnesses they can to attempt to prove their clients' innocence.
Might want to be more careful in the use of quotation marks for words that were never said. There is no doubt that Floyd resisted officer instructions verbally and physically. That doesn't mean the officers will be exonerated.
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i don't care how calm the times are or what george floyd had done in the past ... Derek chauvin is a bad cop... Who the hell kneels on someones kneck for 8 minutes when they have the person handcuffed and under control ... He belongs in jail for the rest of his life imo

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I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed that’s why I guess I’m so confused. Many folks say that Chauvin should burn in hell for his negligence. Others say he was negligent in the course of his duty and unfortunately a person died but he should be exonerated. The reason I’m confused is because we’ve seen this before and the process was completely different. On July 18, 1969 in a small town in MA a young girl was in a car driven by a person that was allegedly drunk. The driver went off the road into a pond. The girl was submerged in water and therefore denied access to air for a lot longer than 9 minutes. The driver never attempted to rescue the girl, he simply got out of the car and left the scene. He never called for an ambulance as Chauvin did. The driver allegedly went home to sober up and met with others to formulate a plan to mitigate the damages. The driver did not return to the scene of the accident until the next morning. The girl was dead due to his negligence. Floyd was dead due to Chauvin’s negligence. Chauvin lost his job and has been charged with murder. The driver never lost his job and was never charged with murder. The driver was, however, punished by losing the possibility of a promotion. Maybe losing the possibility of a promotion for one person equated to a murder charge for another person. Again, I’m not the sharpest tool, so could someone explain why Chauvin is so guilty of a crime by many, yet that driver was so not guilty of a crime by many. Maybe I just don’t understand the meaning of negligence. Maybe the girl resisted the driver more violently than Floyd resisted Chauvin.
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It is about time this bad cop is locked up, Sadly there’s folks out there thinking he should get off I’ll assume they are former law officers. I’m hoping all involved in that murder end up in prison and in general population. Then justice will be served. And NO I am not a person angry at our fine men in law enforcement that we pay to enforce the law,
I’m sickened by the ones that try to protect the ones that are corrupt and dirty. They seem to forget what goes around comes around if another officer breaks the law its their duty to uphold the law. But from the beginning they’re taught to look the other way and don’t cross that blue line.
That makes them as corrupt as their brother.
"I’m sickened by the ones that try to protect the ones that are corrupt and dirty."

That statement goes directly to the heart of the problem. While we have seen posts from a number of those claiming to have been law enforcement officers, I seem to have missed any of them saying they have turned one of their own in or that they disagreed with their union protecting the corrupt, racist, bigoted or generally bad cops. Why is that?
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:24 AM
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This is one of the goofiest, unfounded conspiracy theories yet in this entire episode.
I don't know about the details of this conspiracy theory, but Chauvin and Floyd did have a history.

I believe that it has been reported that they argued and didn't get along. I don't know anything about the money laundering aspect of this, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that this history had something to do with the killing.
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Could someone please tell me what the evidence is that the George Floyd incident was racially motivated? Thanks.
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:28 AM
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Just the opposite....listen to the whole tape that came out....
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Why are you people making excuses for the cop. He was dead wrong....
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Why post something like this? You have no way of knowing anything about the prosecution of the officers or the process of jury selection or trial. You obviously made this post with the simply objective of inflaming emotions.

Why did you do that? Shameful.
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Not if the prosecutor gets the jury he wants.
And if they do get found not guilty, these riots the last 6 weeks will look like a tea party.
That’s not a reason to find them guilty. Well, I guess it is... a terrible reason!
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I agree. They will be found guilty in a court of law and I hope they get the maximum sentence.
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This is one of the goofiest, unfounded conspiracy theories yet in this entire episode.
Hey it's not any worse than the twinkie defense. Lawyers will try anything to defend. It's their job.
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:31 AM
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This is one of the goofiest, unfounded conspiracy theories yet in this entire episode.
It is just one of very many possibilities
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What is funny about these types of threads

1. The USA has a legal system where guilt or innocence is decided by a jury after seeing all the evidence.

2. Nevertheless, people continue to pronounce guilt or innocence based on media reports and only a portion of the evidence.

Lots of people were 100% sure Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin. Jury pronounced him innocent on all counts after seeing all the evidence.

Lots more people thought Michael Brown was murdered with his hands up by Officer Wilson. But it was all a lie. Brown wasn’t surrendering and didn’t say don’t shoot. And he wasn’t a victim of police misconduct. Rather than the “Gentle Giant” he was portrayed at in the media, he sucker punched Wilson while Wilson sat in his police car, tried to grab Wilson’s service pistol, and was shot when he charged Wilson a second time.

BLM movement was founded on these two cases.

Nobody here knows what will happen in the Floyd case yet because a jury hasn't been shown all the evidence yet.
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