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Originally Posted by toeser

Sorry, I would have a hard time working with an organization that displays a closed fist on its posters. That's not exactly a peace symbol.

To be precise, the clenched fist is a revolutionary and communist gesture.

Fred

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Thank you for interjecting some FACTS into this discussion. Now get ready to duck, since there are several posters, and we all know who they are, that will call you a racist, or that you are defending a murderous cop, or that you are "complicit" in what happened. Just ignore them.
No different than those that post the facts of Floyd's criminal record. No, that record does not justify what happened, but the media is busy trying to canonize him as a saint when he has a record of violent felonies. Now, there I've done it, I'll get called a racist as well

Certainly not by me

Fred

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Just do a search of his previous posts, and you will quickly find out that HE REALLY SAID THAT

Please permit me to add my $.02

Fred

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Originally Posted by Byte1

I have to agree with you. There is one particular network on TV that caters to young people where EVERY couple is either black and white, Asian and white or gay. Kind of hard for the younger generation to be bigoted when the norm is dictated by a liberal Hollywood media.
Our parents were of the Greatest Generation and succeeding generations have become weaker and weaker. Say what you will about the Greatest Generation being wrong in their racial bearing, they were still the GREATEST generation.
And before anyone suggests that my statement is bigoted, I come from a multi-ethnicity family. I have hopes for the next generation, but am also glad that I do not believe I will be around to see them go through their trials and obstacles to keep this country great. Thank goodness. I am sure that if my parents could see us now, they would also be shaking their heads.

Shaking their heads … they're probably spinning in their graves

Fred

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson

So do you think they will be convicted?

To be frank, if they were going up before an Internal Affairs board, I would be skeptical. But, presuming that a jury will be given all the known facts, and weigh them carefully, I believe that a just verdict will be rendered - in spite of whether people who have NOT heard all the known facts agree with it or not.

Fred

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie

but as far as stress level then it's fourth: The 10 most stressful jobs

Enlisted military personnel of three or four years
Firefighter:
Airline pilot:
Police officer:

so though statistics may show that they are less "dangerous" they are probably more stressful because of the potential that exists.

as the daughter of a policeman, I can only tell you what I saw. My father saw people at their worst. He was unbelievable strict with his children because of what he saw being done by others kids. It was not a fun childhood. at the time he worked as a police officer they walked beats and they rotated shifts every 6 weeks which they now know is unhealthy for one's body clock. now people have assigned shifts. And he was this way back in a time when policemen were respected and people did what they said. now they are taunted and called all sorts of names when they are trying to help. my father only pulled his gun once in his career--someone actually was stealing his car from in front of the police station. My brother, also a cop, was in knife fights, etc. more than once. and this was in upstate NY, not some teaming metropolis.

I think there should be regular mandatory counseling because I think seeing the worst day after day does something to you. you forget the millions of decent people who live quiet, lawful lives.

I agree with you and empathize with your experiences growing up. But, to be accurate, my response was in regards to the popular misconception of police officer being a "dangerous job". I don't think it's a leap of faith to surmise that there are many stresses to being an LEO but that holds true for many other professions, as well, some of which you enumerated. I certainly was not attempting to belittle the role that all of the GOOD police officers play in our society, merely pointing out a fact about the dangers of the job. Logging is counted as the most dangerous, airline pilot, as you noted (my former profession before retirement) as 3rd, while LEO ranks as 14th. But, again, we're talking about lethality, not stress.

Fred

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