[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Plenty of others here have done, and keep doing it all. You don't know all about everyone.

Steve

I realize that a lot of others help.

You can usually tell...by how they post.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Nope. That's your idea of complicity.

Webster's definition is: "Association or participation in or as if in a wrongful act."

Just because someone remains silent, in no way makes them complicit no matter how much you would like it to. Silence does not equal association or participation. Silence is simply the absence of sound.

Well said, thanks.
Steve

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

How so?

If I posted 50 times a day on this forum lecturing people, would it make me any less complicit?

I didn't know that making noise granted relief from complicity.

When I was a child yapping on and on about whatever my grandmother used to tell me "An empty barrel makes the most noise.". She was right on the money!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Well said, thanks.
Steve

Not foreveryone, I suppose...but worth a thought maybe...
-------------

"“Silence becomes cowardice when occasion demands speaking out the whole truth and acting accordingly.”
― Mahatma Gandhi"

---------------------

[anothersteve]

"The wise man seeks knowledge, he just never has the idiocy to believe he knows everything. The minute he starts thinking he’s an expert is the minute he stops being flexible. The minute he grows arrogant is the minute he stops learning."

We could quote till the cows come home.

I found that on the innertube by the way.

Makes sense to me
Steve

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Not for everyone, I suppose...but worth a thought maybe...
-------------

"Silence becomes cowardice when occasion demands speaking out the whole truth and acting accordingly.”

― Mahatma Gandhi"

---------------------

Absolutely...dead on.

[VillageLiberal]

Originally Posted by daveersk

Law Enforcement is the glue that holds our country together.

When I see disrespect for ALL Law Enforcement, It makes me sad & anxious for the country.

Every group of people have rotten apples, this is what occurred with this case.

It’s extremely disheartening to see the total disrespect for ALL Law Enforcement.

Remember:
Most likely someday you’ll need Law Enforcement in some capacity.

God Bless America!

I don't believe what we're witnessing is a disrespect for all law enforcement. Clearly we've seen on most news channels peaceful protestors and law enforcement taking knees together. As Barack Obama said this evening in a worldwide telecast, most law enforcement officers are not racist (not his words), most would never kill they people they are sworn to protect. However there are still a bunch which truly want to kill African Americans because they believe them to be inferior humans and blame them for everything that is wrong with America. This thinking IS WRONG!!! If you believe that people of color are the problem with America, then you only need to look in the mirror to see who is the real problem in America.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by VillageLiberal

I don't believe what we're witnessing is a disrespect for all law enforcement. Clearly we've seen on most news channels peaceful protestors and law enforcement taking knees together. As Barack Obama said this evening in a worldwide telecast, most law enforcement officers are not racist (not his words), most would never kill they people they are sworn to protect.

However there are still a bunch which truly want to kill African Americans because they believe them to be inferior humans and blame them for everything that is wrong with America. This thinking IS WRONG!!!

If you believe that people of color are the problem with America, then you only need to look in the mirror to see who is the real problem in America.

Yep.

The ultimate irony being, that a lot of that hate from certain white folks is that they are petrified...of becoming the minority.

Now, why in the world would they be...so fearful of that?

Oh yeah, that's right, maybe it's because they know how minorities have been treated in this country...and they don't want it happening to them?


Fear Drives Hate (poke here)

Almost half of white Americans say the USA becoming a majority nonwhite nation would "weaken American customs and values," a new Pew Research Center survey says.

"The finding speaks for itself. It suggests concern broadly held by whites about a majority-minority country," says Rich Morin, a senior editor at Pew Research Center.

[mtdjed]

And how many illegal police killings are happening. I realize that one is too many, but this dialogue sounds like hundreds. I'm betting that more police are being killed than there are of innocent citizens.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Dgizzi

I haven’t seen a peaceful one yet..nothing good comes out of protesting.

The Montgomery Bus Boycott (1955–1956)
Objective: Lessen racial segregation and inequality for blacks in the American South

Method of Protest: Montgomery’s black population refused to use public transportation.

Results: An Alabama district court ruled that the racial segregation was unlawful. The decision was appealed but upheld by the Supreme Court.

Was the Protest a Success? Yes. It also served as the impetus for the civil rights movement of the 1960s.


The Lust Lady Strike of San Francisco (1997)
Objective: Ability for strippers at San Francisco’s Lusty Lady club to form a union

Method of Protest: Strippers went on strike protesting outside the club and asking patrons not to enter unless the women were allowed to form a union.

Results: After a lengthy legal battle, the dancers were permitted to form a union

Was the Protest a Success? Yes

The “Lactivists” at Applebee’s (2007)
Objective: Stop discrimination against public breastfeeding at Applebee’s Restaurants

Method of Protest: A “Nurse-in” was scheduled — across the country, breastfeeding mothers would nurse their infants in plain view of Applebee’s.

Results: Applebee’s put out a statement saying “This situation has provided an opportunity for us to work with our associates to ensure we’re making nursing mothers feel welcome….we will also accommodate other guests who would be more comfortable moving to another area of the restaurant.”

Was the Protest a Success? Yes

Now, it can be argued that strippers being able to form a union might not be "good." And perhaps you are uncomfortable seeing a woman breastfeeding her child so for you - that might not be "good."

But unless you're here to tell us that you feel blacks should have been kept segregated and forced to sit at the back of the bus...you'll have to admit that you were incorrect in your statement that "nothing good" comes from peaceful protest.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Bucco

SNIP> ......those folks are not listening, simply playing strong guy...<SNIP

A REAL LIFE "strong guy" spoke today...and it was extremely powerful & truthful.



.

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by Windguy

Well, then why don't the good ones demand that the violent racists be punished for what they do? If they think they are being diminished, then they damn well better do something about it.

I know a number of retired of police officers who feel cops that abuse their power should be punished. I know two current Central FL police officers who have PUBLICLY said that "No one despises a bad cop more than a good cop."
Don't assume there isn't recognition that there are bad cops, and that bad cops should be punished.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

A REAL LIFE "strong guy" spoke today...and it was extremely powerful & truthful.



.

Don't keep us in suspense, who might that be?
Steve

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The Montgomery Bus Boycott (1955–1956)
Objective: Lessen racial segregation and inequality for blacks in the American South

Method of Protest: Montgomery’s black population refused to use public transportation.

Results: An Alabama district court ruled that the racial segregation was unlawful. The decision was appealed but upheld by the Supreme Court.

Was the Protest a Success? Yes. It also served as the impetus for the civil rights movement of the 1960s.


The Lust Lady Strike of San Francisco (1997)
Objective: Ability for strippers at San Francisco’s Lusty Lady club to form a union

Method of Protest: Strippers went on strike protesting outside the club and asking patrons not to enter unless the women were allowed to form a union.

Results: After a lengthy legal battle, the dancers were permitted to form a union

Was the Protest a Success? Yes

The “Lactivists” at Applebee’s (2007)
Objective: Stop discrimination against public breastfeeding at Applebee’s Restaurants

Method of Protest: A “Nurse-in” was scheduled — across the country, breastfeeding mothers would nurse their infants in plain view of Applebee’s.

Results: Applebee’s put out a statement saying “This situation has provided an opportunity for us to work with our associates to ensure we’re making nursing mothers feel welcome….we will also accommodate other guests who would be more comfortable moving to another area of the restaurant.”

Was the Protest a Success? Yes

Now, it can be argued that strippers being able to form a union might not be "good." And perhaps you are uncomfortable seeing a woman breastfeeding her child so for you - that might not be "good."

But unless you're here to tell us that you feel blacks should have been kept segregated and forced to sit at the back of the bus...you'll have to admit that you were incorrect in your statement that "nothing good" comes from peaceful protest.

Well, you are not responding to the fact that the protests we are seeing now are not peaceful. Piles of bricks positioned at protest sights, cars ramming into police, bombing ATMS, looting, injuring and killing people. You have to consider the whole. Sure there are some protests that start out peaceful. But that opportunity then brings on those that have nothing good in mind. It happens all the time and we can all see it. So those starting the peaceful protests should be just as responsible for the bad deeds it precipitates.

[John_W]

Protesters Grab $2.4 Million Worth of Watches from Soho Rolex Store