[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by vilger

Please explain how the President will not allow "pre-existing" conditions to preclude anyone from obtaining reasonable healthcare insurance? He has had over 3 1/2 years to come up with the "terrific" Obamacare replacement plan that he promised during the last election. Instead we get some bulls**t executive order 5 weeks before the next election that does nothing but promises to look into protecting pre-existing conditions. Oh yes, and the President has joined a lawsuit that the Supreme Court will hear on November 10 to abolish Obamacare, and a bribe of a $200 Medicare prescription card to get the senior vote.

Do you honestly believe any healthcare plan will get through congress? There is 0 chance of that.
Do you see Democrats agreeing to come to the table to create a bipartisan healthcare plan?
You can't ding the current administration about coming up with a healthcare plan when none of the democrats will help craft a viable plan.
Let's face it... both sides are dug in about pretty much everything and neither side will move. So... you can't point the finger at one side without looking in your own sandbox.

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by biker1

Are these Part D prices?

No. I'm on an Advantage Plan. So I don't pay anything for Medicare...

[biker1]

Actually you probably are. You probably pay the Medicare fee ( $145 to $400+ per month depending on your income). It may be deducted from SS but you are still paying it. Depending on your Medicare Advantage Plan, you may be getting a "rebate" of sorts from your Medicare Advantage Plan. That is the "probably" part.

Originally Posted by Northwoods

No. I'm on an Advantage Plan. So I don't pay anything for Medicare...

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by biker1

Actually you probably are. You probably pay the Medicare fee ( $145 to $400+ per month depending on your income). It may be deducted from SS but you are still paying it. Depending on your Medicare Advantage Plan, you may be getting a "rebate" of sorts from your Medicare Advantage Plan. That is the "probably" part.

Yes, My "payment" is less than I would be paying if I was on Medicare. I get $40 in medical supplies every quarter (I buy from Walgreens). The only negative I've found is the increase in my particular prescription costs.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Some people smoke their whole lives and live to be 90. Others eat healthy, exercise and are non-smokers and drop dead from a heart attack. All Americans should be covered by healthcare. Medicare is okay, but those of us that have it, know it isn't the best coverage there is and need to purchase a supplement. The gigantic tax reduction for corporations and the uber wealthy has added to our national debt. It could have been used for healthcare, infrastructure, schools, etc. Not all Americans are born healthy or wealthy. The middle class and poorer folks work, pay taxes without loopholes and keep corporations wealthy.

[PugMom]

wait-a-sec: i specifically recall the president giving a speech maybe last month, maybe 2 months ago, where he clearly stated he was protecting pre-existing conditions, meaning they will be covered. i didn't see much of this anywhere except local FL tv stations. if i get time later, i'll go back & find the specific report, & try to post it up, if i'm allowed.

[biker1]

Federal tax revenue, as a percentage of GDP, hasn’t varied much over the last 70 years. It typically runs about 17%. In other words, the amount of revenue the Government sees is pretty much independent of changes in the tax law. Also, Corporations don’t pay taxes. Their customers pay them.

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Some people smoke their whole lives and live to be 90. Others eat healthy, exercise and are non-smokers and drop dead from a heart attack. All Americans should be covered by healthcare. Medicare is okay, but those of us that have it, know it isn't the best coverage there is and need to purchase a supplement. The gigantic tax reduction for corporations and the uber wealthy has added to our national debt. It could have been used for healthcare, infrastructure, schools, etc. Not all Americans are born healthy or wealthy. The middle class and poorer folks work, pay taxes without loopholes and keep corporations wealthy.

[PugMom]

it didn't take long, but i found that news report. idk if the link will be allowed, but i will try anyway
President Trump signs Executive Order on pre-existing conditions in Charlotte

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Boomer

(Please pay attention. Pre-existing conditions are on the chopping block, now with Covid as an additional bonus possible for insurance companies.)

It is highly possible, that in the near future, insurance companies -- again -- will be allowed to use pre-existing conditions as their right to deny coverage.

If insurance companies are awarded the unconscionable power to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, it is not a big leap of the imagination to think that having had Covid 19 could be termed a pre-existing condition.

Why do I think that could happen? — because we do not understand where this virus can take us. But we do know that Covid 19 can sometimes leave very serious, and possibly chronic, health problems in its wake — even after supposed recovery.

I realize that most Villagers are comfortably swaddled in Medicare or good coverage from military retirement or previous employers. But, even so, in this time of overwhelming distraction, it is important to stay informed of what is playing out behind the front-and-center chaos.

Gen X and Millennials and younger boomers who get the virus and recover could find themselves saddled with a pre-existing condition — forever— just for having had the virus — even though nothing else has shown up — yet — after recovery.

Maybe I am overthinking this. Gee, could insurance companies ever even consider reaching into such a pot of gold as Covid recovery as an excuse to deny coverage.

No matter where your loyalties lie, no matter whether you have any younger people in your life to love, please pay attention, stay informed — from a variety of sources.

The ultimate decision to protect or to take away the individual’s right to not be denied health insurance coverage due to a pre-existing condition is in the works — with powerful support to take away that right.

Be careful what you wish (wished?) for.

Cassandra Boomer

An Executive Order means nothing if The Supreme Court rules against the ACA.
While pre-existing conditions include life-threatening illnesses like cancer or chronic conditions like asthma or diabetes, insurance companies frequently consider care specific to women as a pre-existing condition and an excuse to deny health coverage. In other words, just being a woman could be considered a preexisting condition.

[Kilmacowen]

Originally Posted by PugMom

it didn't take long, but i found that news report. idk if the link will be allowed, but i will try anyway
President Trump signs Executive Order on pre-existing conditions in Charlotte

Read the article. This is just more smoke and mirrors. It is not a law , he can't force the insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions. Also, the premium would be so high and unaffordable. WHERE'S THE SO CALLED PLAN

[vilger]

Originally Posted by Kilmacowen

Read the article. This is just more smoke and mirrors. It is not a law , he can't force the insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions. Also, the premium would be so high and unaffordable. WHERE'S THE SO CALLED PLAN

He has had almost 4 years to come up with a plan that is not vaporware, and has the force of law, and has given us zilch; except, "duh, who knew that health care was so complicated?"

[Carla B]

Not just four years, It's been more like 50 years, (per Brooks & Shields, PBS News Hour, 9/25/20), or at least since Nixon was president.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Supreme Court case decision coming up right after the election could completely eliminate Obamacare ( ACA) which also removes preexisting condition protections. QUOTE=Leadbone1;1834008]Absolutely wrong. If anything there’s a bigger push right now to be sure that pre-existing conditions are covered than the other way around. Don’t know where you’re getting your information?[/QUOTE]

[Lindsyburnsy]

Current leader had the house and senate and still couldn’t come up with a viable healthcare plan.

Originally Posted by Northwoods

Do you honestly believe any healthcare plan will get through congress? There is 0 chance of that.
Do you see Democrats agreeing to come to the table to create a bipartisan healthcare plan?
You can't ding the current administration about coming up with a healthcare plan when none of the democrats will help craft a viable plan.
Let's face it... both sides are dug in about pretty much everything and neither side will move. So... you can't point the finger at one side without looking in your own sandbox.

[vilger]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Supreme Court case decision coming up right after the election could completely eliminate Obamacare ( ACA) which also removes preexisting condition protections. QUOTE=Leadbone1;1834008]Absolutely wrong. If anything there’s a bigger push right now to be sure that pre-existing conditions are covered than the other way around. Don’t know where you’re getting your information?

[/QUOTE]

Pre-existing conditions are currently protected by Obamacare, and the administration has joined the Supreme Court suit to declare Obamacare unconstitutional. Don't know where you get your info from - Fox "News"?