[graciegirl]

People need feel no shame for their race no matter what race it is.

People need to obey laws no matter what the laws are or seek to change them.

You cannot legislate morality. Hatred will always find a subject and even if it is to bully and belittle than hatred will destroy.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

In that case I would suggest calling out the national guard with shoot to kill orders. Ends looting in a hurry

Unless there are consequences the looting will continue. Just an excuse to get free stuff.

[timinthevillages]

So this title was about the protesters. Seems the subject has gotten confused with looters. Because they are not one and the same. That would be like me saying all cops are bad.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by timinthevillages

So this title was about the protesters. Seems the subject has gotten confused with looters. Because they are not one and the same. That would be like me saying all cops are bad.

I'm confused. Are you saying that looting for free stuff is just a fringe benefit of protesting? What about burning buildings and cars? Is that protesting? I would say that all of it is protesting, but it is illegal protesting.

[Get real]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I would like to know how Al Sharpton is helping.

That is the funniest thing I heard all day.

[mneumann02]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Those of you who would rather focus on the fires/looting, instead of what has brought people to the point where they feel they are at the end of their rope, have nothing to lose, because no one cares how the African-American community has been constantly mistreated and abused...YOU are also to blame.

If you just stand on the sidelines and refuse to recognize and to become active and support true equality, you are no different than those German citizens...who just stood by while Hitler rounded up Jews/critics/gays/Etc.

If you're one of those keeping your mouth shut and purposely confusing 'Nationalism' (which is simply code for "white nationalism") with 'Patriotism,' when blacks are on the front lines serving you and dying at a horrendous % rate compared to other demographics, just so you can hide in your house during this virus crisis...you also carry part of the blame.

I guarantee, if it were old white people suffering what is constantly happening to young black men and were treated from black policemen the way so many black men are treated from so many white policemen, millions of you would be screeching about the horror and injustice...and a certain % would be running around with their assault rifles screaming "give me my liberty back."

This morning, a FULLY credentialed news team who was doing absolutely nothing wrong, other than the on-air reporter being black...was arrested while reporting.

You can claim all you want about how you're not racist or a bigot, but if you refuse to become involved to right these wrongs...you forfeit that claim.

MLK referred to it as "the silence of good white people."

Are YOU one of those people?

Would you be fine with it, if the tables were turned...180 degrees?



Repeat this 100 times...until it actually sinks in:


“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

I believe your statement gets at the root cause of why these tragedies occur and why they will never be solved, i.e., Denying The Root Causes of These Tragic Events. Try to take your emotions out of the equation and we can get at the root causes, then solve the problem.

Let's start with your claim " I guarantee, if it were old white people suffering what is constantly happening to young black men" we'd be doing the same things. Well, when old white people do something wrong and are confronted by police, we tend to say "Yes, Sir" and comply with their commands. Would there be less of these tragic events if there was more compliance and less resistance?

Forgive me, but I will diverge. I'm basically a liberal but my problem with extreme liberal folks is that they tend to just want to throw more money at failed social programs and blame others for poverty and crime. I want to solve the problems of poverty and crime. We actually can do it, but not by denying the root causes.

[72lions]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov

Unless there are consequences the looting will continue. Just an excuse to get free stuff.

Unless there are consequences, police brutality will not stop. As horrific as the action of this officer was, the inaction of the other officers is sickening.

[manaboutown]

More is being revealed as is usually the case. Both Floyd and the cop worked security at the same club so they obviously knew one another. Was it a personal grudge? George Floyd & Fired Cop Worked Security Together at Club: Report

George Floyd, Arresting Officer Worked Together: Club Owner

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Those of you who would rather focus on the fires/looting, instead of what has brought people to the point where they feel they are at the end of their rope, have nothing to lose, because no one cares how the African-American community has been constantly mistreated and abused...YOU are also to blame.

If you just stand on the sidelines and refuse to recognize and to become active and support true equality, you are no different than those German citizens...who just stood by while Hitler rounded up Jews/critics/gays/Etc.

If you're one of those keeping your mouth shut and purposely confusing 'Nationalism' (which is simply code for "white nationalism") with 'Patriotism,' when blacks are on the front lines serving you and dying at a horrendous % rate compared to other demographics, just so you can hide in your house during this virus crisis...you also carry part of the blame.

I guarantee, if it were old white people suffering what is constantly happening to young black men and were treated from black policemen the way so many black men are treated from so many white policemen, millions of you would be screeching about the horror and injustice...and a certain % would be running around with their assault rifles screaming "give me my liberty back."

This morning, a FULLY credentialed news team who was doing absolutely nothing wrong, other than the on-air reporter being black...was arrested while reporting.

You can claim all you want about how you're not racist or a bigot, but if you refuse to become involved to right these wrongs...you forfeit that claim.

MLK referred to it as "the silence of good white people."

Are YOU one of those people?

Would you be fine with it, if the tables were turned...180

Repeat this 100 times...until it actually sinks in:


“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

ENABLING by silence

“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.”


― Dietrich Bonhoeffer

[anothersteve]

I always wonder about the "outspoken" on any particular "cause" actually. Do they practice what they preach? Oh..... to be a fly on some walls!
Steve

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

I always wonder about the "outspoken" on any particular "cause" actually. Do they practice what they preach? Oh..... to be a fly on some walls!
Steve

Of course you are correct. Does not apply on this forum, where you are not even here if you do not post.

Best question is how much is posted for reasons other than what is in the heart.

[Shbullet]

Originally Posted by Get real

Blacks are just as patriotic as everyone else. Stuff your bigotry.

Yeah those white horrible police just picking on blacks. Pull your head out of your you know what.

You can claim all you want about how you're not racist or a bigot, but if you refuse to become involved to right these wrongs...you forfeit that claim. ABSOULTELY. Look in the mirror.

ColdNoMore Im proud to be a old white person and refuse to be placed in a category that paints me as racist or anti black just because Im an old white man. Just quit that self righteous BS forum that tries to imply that your above all others. We all have empathy for what happened but I refuse to take personal blame for any of it. And no Im not the problem...at all

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Best question is how much is posted for reasons other than what is in the heart.

Agreed
Steve

[timinthevillages]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm confused. Are you saying that looting for free stuff is just a fringe benefit of protesting? What about burning buildings and cars? Is that protesting? I would say that all of it is protesting, but it is illegal protesting.

No, sorry for not being clear. I'm saying protesters are protesting and a bad element are taking advantage of the situation. Hence the looters. All I'm saying is it's seems their are considered one and the same.

[manaboutown]

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