[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Those of you who would rather focus on the fires/looting, instead of what has brought people to the point where they feel they are at the end of their rope, have nothing to lose, because no one cares how the African-American community has been constantly mistreated and abused...YOU are also to blame.

If you just stand on the sidelines and refuse to recognize and to become active and support true equality, you are no different than those German citizens...who just stood by while Hitler rounded up Jews/critics/gays/Etc.

If you're one of those keeping your mouth shut and purposely confusing 'Nationalism' (which is simply code for "white nationalism") with 'Patriotism,' when blacks are on the front lines serving you and dying at a horrendous % rate compared to other demographics, just so you can hide in your house during this virus crisis...you also carry part of the blame.

I guarantee, if it were old white people suffering what is constantly happening to young black men and were treated from black policemen the way so many black men are treated from so many white policemen, millions of you would be screeching about the horror and injustice...and a certain % would be running around with their assault rifles screaming "give me my liberty back."

This morning, a FULLY credentialed news team who was doing absolutely nothing wrong, other than the on-air reporter being black...was arrested while reporting.

You can claim all you want about how you're not racist or a bigot, but if you refuse to become involved to right these wrongs...you forfeit that claim.

MLK referred to it as "the silence of good white people."

Are YOU one of those people?

Would you be fine with it, if the tables were turned...180 degrees?



Repeat this 100 times...until it actually sinks in:


“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Thank you. This is spot on. I'd be willing to bet that all the white people who thought that Colin Kaepernick taking a knee in peaceful protest was just unthinkable and unpatriotic, are suddenly silent when a police officer takes a knee on a suspect to the point of killing him. Hypocrites.

[Kegarn]

Many of these protesters are NOT locals....they come in for the sole purpose of creating destruction and mayhem. What a tragic state of affairs, either way.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Cops aren’t suppose to murder anybody. A forged check or fake $20 is not worthy of capital punishment.

[NotGolfer]

To Winston OBogey and others too on this thread, there were businesses that were owned by black people. One for sure...a retired firefighter in fact, whose business he was just opening was destroyed. He was shown crying and asking "why!" It has been alluded to that the rioters (that's what they are) were brought in from other places to destroy. Isn't it strange that ALL ACROSS this country almost in syncrony the same thing is happening in other cities? It's not about the man that was killed. We don't yet know the particulars behind that death---it might have been a personal vendetta (it's been alluded to). I believe it's being used as an excuse for other deeds, which is exceedly sad and wrong. I don't rely on the "news"...as it's opinion now and not the "where, what, when, who and why" that it used to be. It saddens me that human beings feel they can take advantage and destroy things in this manner as well as steal. They're being driven by nefarious means. What if it were your friends or family that were affected? Many places (in the 100's) and no longer in "the hood" (so to speak) were burned and destroyed. It's our country that we all profess to love that's being destroyed. Let's pull together.

[bilcon]

Me wife and I visited South America in February and saw first handed what happened when the criminals got involved in a peaceful protest about wages, retirement pay and increases in cost of living. The thugs destroyed the downtown areas of Valparaiso and Santiago. Stores and subways were burned and looted, all the beautiful monuments and buildings were spray painted. More than 35 were killed after the police finally got involved, The looters now set up blankets outside the closed stores and sell the merchandise they looted, Most of the stores are still closed 3 months later and all those people are without jobs. Just goes to show that the real reasons for the peaceful demonstrates were lost on a few thousand thugs who thrive on these opportunities to steal, loot and destroy property. A week or so after the original violent demonstrations in October or November, there was another demonstration in downtown Santiago with an estimated one million people. The thugs were not there and not one incident of violence was reported. Because of a few bad cops in the US, the rest of the force will have their hands tied, and the thugs will get away with the crimes. We are in deep dodo, but this is not new. Sorry for the people who are genuinely concerned about what happened in MN.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Thank you. This is spot on. I'd be willing to bet that all the white people who thought that Colin Kaepernick taking a knee in peaceful protest was just unthinkable and unpatriotic, are suddenly silent when a police officer takes a knee on a suspect to the point of killing him. Hypocrites.

Who is silent? I hear a lot of white people condemning this act.

I just heard a commentator on television say that we need peace, but we also need justice. I hope that we can get justice for all of these business owners that had nothing to do with the actions of this police officer as well.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Kegarn

Many of these protesters are NOT locals....they come in for the sole purpose of creating destruction and mayhem. What a tragic state of affairs, either way.

Protesting, destruction, and looting is occurring in many places around the country. What difference does it make whether they are local or not?

[rrlavigne]

Our generation can't be holier than thou. Look at all the riots and looting in the 60s, they were almost common place. Unfortunately this is nothing new.

[Cranford61]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That would need to be triple-checked for accuracy.

Source for this? That looks like spin but I could be wrong about that.

They were talking about the Rev. Al Sharpton.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Pamelah

I agree ColdNoMore. I think people would stand up IF we knew where to stand and what to do!
This government is incapable of taking a lead. What do we do?

I believe it starts with nationally recognized, good-hearted & decent white leaders/public figures (including those on the right)...speaking up instead of staying silent.

Such as people like Carson Wentz, Steve Kerr and others.

Wentz speaks out against institutionalized racism. (click here)

Originally Posted by Carson Wentz

“Been thinking about the George Floyd situation and thinking of the words to say [and] coming up empty,” Wentz said. “All I know is that the institutional racism in this country breaks my heart and needs to stop. Can’t even fathom what the black community has to endure on a daily basis.

“Being from North Dakota, I’ve spent a large part of my life surrounded by people of similar color, so I’m never gonna act like I know what the black community goes through or even has gone through already. I’ll never know the feeling of having to worry about my kids going outside because of their skin color. However, I do know that we are all equal at the foot of the cross and Jesus taught us to value others’ lives like they were our own — regardless of skin tone.

The reason I have my doubts this will happen in any numbers (especially by those on the right), is because they realize a significant percentage of those who vote/support them are just fine with the current institutional/systemic deck stacked against those who aren't white...and their support would suffer if they spoke up.

It will take good people having the courage to step forward, in a non-violent way...to even start any changes.

I would also suggest looking nearby and you will find a desperate need for volunteers in predominately black churches/communities, that are grateful for any help...but especially by those of us who are white and live in TV.

Not only have I been openly accepted and appreciated, but this has been some of the most rewarding and satisfying actions of my life and I recommend everyone do at least something...even if it's just a clothes or monetary donation.

Sadly however, one only has to look at the usual suspects right here on TOTV...to see those who are fine with the status quo.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Thank you. This is spot on. I'd be willing to bet that all the white people who thought that Colin Kaepernick taking a knee in peaceful protest was just unthinkable and unpatriotic, are suddenly silent when a police officer takes a knee on a suspect to the point of killing him. Hypocrites.

You are absolutely correct.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

You are absolutely correct.

It would be interesting to arrest the looters and see where they came from and how they came to be in the city they are looting.

Keep hearing that many are paid to come and protest and while they are there lets get some free stuff.

It is a horrible tragedy that the man was apparently murdered by the cop but too destroy property including businesses owned by blacks is just plain wrong and wish police would do their jobs and put a stop to the destruction.

[Taltarzac725]

The problem in Minneapolis seems to be with the training and monitoring of their police forces.

Many police leaders interviewed on CNN and on the Orlando news channels have also made this observation.

I did investigate an alleged beating of one of my clients when I was a Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoner's student back around 1987-1988 but the person I represented could not give a correct date and, of course, the police were quite uncooperative about handing over any records. They wanted a date and time and my client could not recall when he was allegedly beaten.

He dropped the whole matter. I did get the feeling he had been attacked by a guard.

One bad actor can cause a lot of damage and if you have a culture in which bad actions are encouraged then that could lead to even wider problems.

Checks-and-balances are critical.

[mamamia54]

The first thing we need to do is stop calling the people involved in this protesters. Start calling them what they are, looters and rioters. Setting fire to innocent business owners, setting police cars on fire, burning the American Flag, etc is not a protest. Martin Luther King must be rolling in his grave. He accomplished more with peace these these morons ever will. The news said this morning that the new planned riots will take place in “upscale white neighborhoods”. Can you imagine what would happen if all this energy was used to do good. What I don’t understand is why isn’t Mr Floyd’s family coming out and asking for peace and for this to stop. I wouldn’t want one of my loved ones memory attached to such destruction. The whole situation is awful. A few bad police put a bad mark on all the police who risk their lives everyday. On the other hand, no one should die after being arrested and in handcuffs. All I know is, what’s going on is not the answer. Innocent business owners (black and white) had nothing to do with this. When this is over and your neighborhood doesn’t have any stores to shop in, blame yourselves.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by diane reynolds

Rioting is a last ditch effort to be HEARD>

No it's not.