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Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population by Race/Ethnicity | KFF

This is from 2019. Has it changed much since then?

We haven't guns in our house, but many friends have guns.
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Your chart is on "deaths" by ethnicity... Not "shootings"...

It says nothing about who is doing the shooting...

And what does your last comment have to do with your initial topic?
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Gun Violence is a Racial Justice Issue | Brady

I did find this. It covers statistics before 2021 however.
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Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population by Race/Ethnicity | KFF

This is from 2019. Has it changed much since then?

We haven't guns in our house, but many friends have guns.
Would be great for discussion (maybe) if knew what you are saying, or suggesting.

You speak of guns in the generic sense but are specific about deaths by skin color.
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Gun Violence is a Racial Justice Issue | Brady

I did find this. It covers statistics before 2021 however.
"Brady"...

Certainly no bias there... And to their point? Wait, do they have an actual point?
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Gun Violence is a Racial Justice Issue | Brady

I did find this. It covers statistics before 2021 however.
It really looks like the title of that article should be, "How to Frame Gun Violence as a Racial Justice Issue."

There are probably some valid points in the article but the misleading way it is written makes me skeptical of its conclusions.
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Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population by Race/Ethnicity | KFF

This is from 2019. Has it changed much since then?

We haven't guns in our house, but many friends have guns.
Really, Gracie?
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I am currently reading a recently published book (2021) that reveals statistics on violent crimes, including murders, committed within the USA by members of four "racial" groups: White, Black, Latino and Asian. The author shows boiled down results from relatively large data bases such as those kept by the FBI.

The facts are an eye opener!

The book is "Facing Reality" by Charles Murray.
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I am currently reading a recently published book (2021) that reveals statistics on violent crimes, including murders, committed within the USA by members of four "racial" groups: Whites, Black, Latino and Asian. The author shows boiled down results from relatively large data bases such as those kept by the FBI.

The facts are an eye opener!

The book is "Facing Reality" by Charles Murray.
the FBI can be trusted right....brrrraappp! NOT
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My guess is that if you created a chart showing shooting and/or deaths by income groups, you would see a correlation. Less income = more shootings/deaths. Looking at the numbers that way makes more sense (to me at least). There are fewer low income whites (as a % of whites) so you would expect their numbers to be lower
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Really, Gracie?
Really what? Is it wrong to try to figure things out? How can we fix anything unless we know why and how it is broken.

It is like the paper we were asked to write in High School English; Do slums make slummy people or do slummy people make slums?

I don't suppose that would be allowed these days. I want to know why the statistics look like this.

That is what I want to know.

People will tell me how they look at things and I will find another unanswerable question.


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I usually think of you as a voice of reason among the chaos...having a LEGAL firearm in your house that you are trained to use has no meaning in your post. Telling us you have none in your house has even less. *sigh*

Has the final bastion on this forum becoming biased. Say it ain't so.
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Recall who Brady is. This is the group connected to James Brady. James Brady - Wikipedia

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Your chart is on "deaths" by ethnicity... Not "shootings"...

It says nothing about who is doing the shooting...

And what does your last comment have to do with your initial topic?

Sadly, it is virtually impossible to find information on race, guns that is not spun by bias.
I find it interesting that the areas with the tightest gun controls are also the areas with the most shootings-New York, Chicago, LA.
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Sadly, it is virtually impossible to find information on race, guns that is not spun by bias.
I find it interesting that the areas with the tightest gun controls are also the areas with the most shootings-New York, Chicago, LA.
Probably connected to turf wars over the drug trade in those areas. Most mass shooters have been white males.
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