[stanley]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Having some popcorn waiting to see which of the "usual suspects" will cause this thread to be closed. Any bets?

Nah.....this isn't their "expertise". Well at least one will keep quiet.

[marksaint]

One of the sites that provides this type of info on Large Metro Areas, ie., (Chicago) is and this is the correct web address
"HeyJackass.com "
Statistical data back to I think 2015.

[Get real]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I read that the FBI avoids making crime statistics BY RACE.

They don't...but they should. Race is not the issue. Class is the issue. Race baiting is a for profit industry for politicians and hustlers.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Some of them seem to have gone missing for the past day or so...

Maybe a "time-out" was given?

One can only hope.

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

In the American Rifleman, a magazine I receive for being an NRA member, publishes every month a list of 6 - 8 articles from city newspapers citing incidents where legally armed citizens using their firearm to protect themselves and others from criminals. All you have to do is go to the newspaper cited as the source to verify it is true. It is estimated that armed American legally use their personal firearm to stop a crime over 2 millions times a year. This doesn't mean they shot someone to stop the crime. In many cases, just the simple brandishing of the firearm caused the criminal to stop and go elsewhere and find an easier target.
The only reason you don't hear about legally armed citizens thwarting a criminal act is that it doesn't meet the "If it bleeds it leads" mentality of our sorry excuse for journalists. Plus it goes against the media's anti-gun propaganda, can't have a positive story about gun ownership.

We are NRA and USCCA members and agree with what you wrote.

[LateBoomer]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

One can only hope.

nope. just bored of quoting facts to people that only have narratives based on nothing

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by marksaint

One of the sites that provides this type of info on Large Metro Areas, ie., (Chicago) is and this is the correct web address
"HeyJackass.com "
Statistical data back to I think 2015.

up until recently there was a web site SSC (second city Cop) that posted a lot of inside information (supposedly) as to what was going on at the street level of Chicago as well as political maneuverings, much of which latter were proven correct, this of course was embarrassing for some people in power/ authority, the site went down and has yet to return, you would get more and better info there than the media,, oh well

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I'm not a gun fan. I'm personally against firearms. All of them. I'm absolutely anti-NRA as it exists today.

But if I ever read a story in a mainstream newspaper, or on mainstream TV, about a citizen in Las Vegas carrying her weapon legally, and managing to successfully prevent the mass shooter by getting him first square in the middle of his forehead, I would be VERY happy to have read it. I would have joined in the masses hailing her as a hero.

That didn't happen though.

It also didn't happen at the Pulse nightclub. Or in Newtown CT. Or at Stoneman Douglas High. Or Rockford IL, Tampa FL, Boynton Beach FL, Atkins, Arkansas, Chicago, Venus, TX, or any of the other dozens of shootings involving more than one victim in a public location around the country in the past few years.

Rapid-fire weapons exist to harm as many people as possible in the shortest period of time. That is why they were invented, why they are marketed, why they exist. Sure lots of people just use them for target shooting at the range. But that's not what they're for.

And no one has successfully stopped a mass shooter from shooting masses with rapid-fire weapons - and in fact, no one has even TRIED to shoot a mass shooter while the mass shooter was actively shooting people...

If someone had stepped up, it would've made national news.

Threatening Jimbob from stealing yer beer at the redneck rave isn't newsworthy (unless Jimbob's throat gets slit or his mom gets impaled on a log, which actually happened this week).

lol rapid fire weapons

[fishon]

Church shooter killed by parishioner.
Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service - ABC News

[Bill14564]

Another, more recent, example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. Unfortunately, it didn't work out well for the good guy.

A 'heroic' man who fatally shot a gunman was himself killed by a responding officer, Colorado police say

[LateBoomer]

Originally Posted by Get real

They don't...but they should. Race is not the issue. Class is the issue. Race baiting is a for profit industry for politicians and hustlers.

as with a study posted earlier, class is statistically related to violent crime, but race has a stronger correlation to violence even after you account for poverty.

so no it's not just class.

to pretend otherwise is to have your head in the sand and deny reality