[Jokomo]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

The real scam is the $350 billion in the package that is going to bail out irresponsible state and local governments like Chicago, California and Connecticut because of many years of poor fiscal management. There financial problems existed long before Covid and now they are getting bailed out on the backs of responsible tax payers. Very sad. As far as the $2,800 stimulus my wife and I recently received, we will be needing at least that to cover the ever increasing price of gas and oil since the new administration has taken over.

The Federal Deficit was $439 billion in 2015. You’re aiming at the wrong enemy.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i read a good portion of the stimulus is going to foreign countries

Please fact check.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by rmd2

Did you miss the part about the pipeline and oil independence? That's why gas was $1.88 a year ago.

Oh please, what foolishness you've been fed. The cancelled "pipeline" is not built and has not moved a single drop of crude. Its existence sometime in the future or its cancellation has exactly ZERO influence on the price of oil today. Same with the claim posted that the executive actions cancelling drilling permits which have not been issued and have produced nothing has no influence on the price of oil today. The US exports oil to over 100 different countries. This has not changed since Jan 20th. The big increase in US oil production happened under the administration that was in office from 2009 to 2017. I know you don't hear that from some news sources which continuously tell you how terrible the energy policy has been.

Gas was 1.88 a year ago because the country and the world were shutting down. Demand was down as no one knew how deep the economic consequences of Covid were going to be. Now things are improving, so demand is up. This is so simple even Fox News should understand it. But when their experts later claim that no reasonable person should believe them, I can't find fault with your falling victim to such misinformation.

[Carlsondm]

The economy is in trouble and families are hurting. The stimulus will help many to survive, and help others to stimulate the economy slightly. It is only a bump to help the worker bees. I am not getting a check and never have, but I am not against helping others. I know some who are giving their checks to others .. caregivers. Please don’t prejudge.

We all need too ‘bump’ out of this pandemic and return to a semblance of normalcy.
Florida is still a viral playground. Wait 2-4 weeks and note the effects of spring breaks.

[BlackhawksFan]

Look my family (we aren't Villagers but it's in my backyard) unfortunately is one who needs this help. Both my brother and I lost our jobs last year and we struggle to stay afloat making a mortgage payment, taxes, utilities, my car payment, auto insurance, groceries. It's tough but we're here and we have each other to lean on.

I'm really glad some of you don't need the money. Do what Winston said, put it back into our community. Get take out, tip well. Buy something you always wanted. Many businesses of all sizes are struggling too and by putting that money out there you help them feed their families.

This isn't a political issue, it's an American issue and I'm glad the government is helping our own when we need it.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

The real scam is the 91% of the money form the American Rescue Plan the government is going to spend that has nothing to do what so ever with COVID relief. If they were really interested in helping people and stimulating the Economy they could have given $10K to everybody in the form of debit cards which could have been used to pay mortgages, rent or to go out and buy goods and services that would help employ people. In the end we probably would have saved a trillion dollars. This is typical of Washington. Throw the people a bone then pay off all your friends and supporters.

Please please fact check.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

Oil production (at least in the US) is most certainly political. The recent EOs banning offshore drilling will decrease production and increase demand.

Decreasing fracking will do the same for Natural Gas prices...

hmmm! As a bonus it might, just might, help climate change.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

There are two purposes for stimulus checks. One is to help those that need help. The second purpose and the reason that it's called a stimulus is that the hope is that those that don't need the money will splurge on something thereby giving businesses an added boost.

Spot on with this comment. Don’t you just love the myth that everyone living in The Villages is rich! Many of us worked for 40 years, avoided spending what we earned on “instant gratification”, saved all that we could for our retirement years, paid our taxes and now live comfortably in The Villages, FL. If that makes us rich, then so be it.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by FG111

President Biden signed the American Rescue Plan Act on March 11. Provisions in the bill authorize another round of $1,400 stimulus checks for each eligible person ($2,800 for couples).

There are 1000's of couples living in The Villages with a paid-off house, no debt, tons of money in the bank, free paid medical insurance and as long as their gross adjusted yearly income is under $150,000, the couple will receive $2,800 in free US tax dollars. This is on top of the two prior stimulus checks they have received in the past six months.

I honestly believe those folks who need the money should be helped, but this stimulus money was not meant for people who didn't need it and for those people living in The Villages that meet this criteria and don't need the stimulus money are just scamming the rest of us.

FG111 - I agree, also all the other FREE things. Wonder how long it’ll be before the U.S. goes bankrupt!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by justjim

Spot on with this comment. Don’t you just love the myth that everyone living in The Villages is rich! Many of us worked for 40 years, avoided spending what we earned on “instant gratification”, saved all that we could for our retirement years, paid our taxes and now live comfortably in The Villages, FL. If that makes us rich, then so be it.

Rich is more than money.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by merrymini

The government is burying us in debt and sent most of it to clean up the mess is debt ridden states and abroad. Only a small fraction is going to Americans. Disgusting power play.

Please, do us all a favor, and read the stimulus bill, and then, maybe then, we will all be better informed, and not pass on misinformation.

[fraurose]

You don’t have an idea what this is about !
I would say educate yourself on this matter.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by rmd2

Did you miss the part about the pipeline and oil independence? That's why gas was $1.88 a year ago.

What pipeline?
The rate was so low because demand was not there.

[Cheiro]

Originally Posted by FG111

President Biden signed the American Rescue Plan Act on March 11. Provisions in the bill authorize another round of $1,400 stimulus checks for each eligible person ($2,800 for couples).

There are 1000's of couples living in The Villages with a paid-off house, no debt, tons of money in the bank, free paid medical insurance and as long as their gross adjusted yearly income is under $150,000, the couple will receive $2,800 in free US tax dollars. This is on top of the two prior stimulus checks they have received in the past six months.

I honestly believe those folks who need the money should be helped, but this stimulus money was not meant for people who didn't need it and for those people living in The Villages that meet this criteria and don't need the stimulus money are just scamming the rest of us.

The stimulus is just that, to stimulate the economy and the vast majority of folks who will receive it will truly need it. As for those who do not need the money, they have a couple of choices. They can always return it, or better yet, donate it to a worthy charity. A charity will certainly be able to spend the money and stimulate the economy.

[Petersweeney]

Someone bought my old golf cart with their family’s stimulus check and I coupled it with my family’s stimulus check to stimulate my credit card company to the tune of 8400 - now I’m not going to complain.