[Michiganders]

So true how you replied. I should have a say what chemical is put into my body without being labeled with a scarlet letter because I choose not to have the vaccine at this time. Our country fought for these freedoms to have them taken away. With all the people vaccinated already the possitive covid count should be going down drastically. If a person chooses to have the vaccine, I respect your decision, that is your right.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

I don't understand the "wow"
Vaccine is basically proven to prevent, getting covid with hospital stay cost insurance thousands. So why should insurance company pay for the whiners that " don't wanna get it".
Unless you have a medical reason for not getting this vaccine that could prevent......well, I say, you are on your own sister.
Ps...same should go for smokers

So do you also feel the same way about people who are overweight. That causes many complications that require medical care. Should we also include them in your “group”? Just wondering...

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Cobullymom

And I’ve worked through this entire time to keep you cared for and your not going to tell me that now I cannot have any freedom to go anywhere because you were scared. If your vaccinated what are you afraid of???

Hand raised>>>>>>>>>>>>>>May I answer that? I'm afraid we will not reach herd immunity the safe way with the vaccines. That is my concern. Not afraid for my own health because I feel pretty damn safe at this point.

[Jhnidy]

How did you determine the positions of conservatives and liberals?

[Roron123]

I’m with DeSantis we do not need a “passport” to prove we’ve had the vaccine! Carry the card that they give you on completion is enough or take a photo of it!

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Swoop

So do you also feel the same way about people who are overweight. That causes many complications that require medical care. Should we also include them in your “group”? Just wondering...

Oh, trust me...I see the problem, you are right, weight, drug use etc,etc.

But we can't expect our premiums to stay constant while we continue to stretch their bottom line, especially when it only takes a vaccine to avoid, which btw, they are paying for.
So, I guess I'm saying we have to stop this whining and try and turn things around.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Roron123

I’m with DeSantis we do not need a “passport” to prove we’ve had the vaccine! Carry the card that they give you on completion is enough or take a photo of it!

We are getting closer & closer to getting microchips in our butts.
The chip could be loaded with the following information:
=Vaccine
=Repub or Demo or Indep
=TV hater or TV lover
=Glass 1/2 full or 1/2 empty person
=Impact Fee care or don't care
=Owner of pooping dog
=Cubs vs Cards
=Golf cart speeder vs 19.9
=Thin crust or Thick crust pizza lover


The list is endless. Then when you approach a person, just read their chip on your phone.

[Alana33]

It's sad and distressing to see so many refusing to wear masks in public places and refuse to be vaccinated for the common good of all mankind.
This is a new disease that is constantly evolving with variant strains. We're lucky that science has evolved to produce a vaccination so quickly that protects against the original strain that cost so many lives in the U.S. and worldwide.
Will it protect against contracting variants?
Will we need booster shots? Who knows!
I've had both vaccinations but I'll continue to wear a mask in public.

As for vaccination passports, what's the big deal?
If you wish to travel, you'll need one.
Many countries and Caribbean destinations require negative test to enter, a test upon entry, 4 day quarantine with a location tracking app, until negative test returned and testing prior to departure plus wear masks in all public places.
They've worked hard to protect their citizens and their medical and healthcare infrastructures from being overwhelmed. They're going to continue to do so, whether antimaskers and antivaccers like it or not. We are nowhere near herd immunity in the U.S.

Cayman Islands, for instance, is not allowing any airline, yacht, nor cruise ships entry until 80% of their population is vaccinated. Smart move.

DeSantis can gripe all he wants but vaccination passports will be required as they should be whether he or you like it or not.

[stevesliders]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

naw, you are missing the point. Covid, a worldwide pandemic, has killed more people in 12 months than HPV, Flu, Shingles, etc has in 50 years.

And many countries will require it anyway - plus airlines, cruiseships, etc...

Reality is, I'm a fan of the Governor, but this policy - having the vaccine and the passport - is the fastest way to get the world on track

Why would anyone support a person who has no regard for your health and well being.

[stevesliders]

Why would anyone support a person who has no regard for your health and well being.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by merrymini

People have lost their minds! The government controlling who travels and where? Are you a bunch of Nazi’s? You give up your freedoms so easily. No wonder crazy people get into high office, stupid people put them there, acting like sheep.

Nobody is controlling where you go!

Where did you get that idea?

Of course, you may not be able to get a passport or travel internationally or even on an aircraft. You DO have all your freedoms, and other countries have to decide whether to let you in or not. You don't a RIGHT of entry go to a foreign country

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Dantes

Yes we need travel documents to go state to state can’t wait until we change our flag to USSA United Socialist State’s of American
Not!

Nobody has suggested that. Chill out with the wierdness please...

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

I'd like to respectfully throw something out there for discussion and perhaps we can learn a bit from each other.

Our governor has said he will prohibit vaccine passports which would require us to prove we've been vaccinated in order to gain access to some businesses, offices, or restaurants.

I find it interesting because it speaks to how we all want the best for our country; we just approach it in different ways. Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal. Liberals are generally okay with government regulation but do indeed want a vaccine passport which DeSantis is opposing.

Just goes to show modern American life is not all cut and dried. We all have to give a little.

If you want to respond but feel the need to be belligerent or snarky, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Says He'll Ban Vaccine Passports

IMO it should mandatory in United States a Nd to kill two birds with one stone add voter ID to it.

[drducat]

This is something to be asked of citizens of China...the CCP are experts at taking away human rights.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by SacDQ

Based on the never ending news we’re told the minority population of color are not stepping up for a vaccine.

Really wrong

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