[DeeCee Dubya]

I am much more afraid of the eagerness of citizens all over the world to blindly and unquestionably bow to government bureaucrats than I am of any virus.

Also consider this; if you know anything about biology you’ll know that viruses constantly mutate and adapt to threats ie. Vaccines. And COVID-19 will be no different. So you better get ready for re-vaccinations about every flu season from now on.

This is nothing more than a garden-variety flu virus which many healthcare experts confirm. It has been used as a proxy for government to control every aspect of human life and justify their own parasitic existence. People wake up please.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

Great responses so far but none are getting to the heart of what I intended to be the matter. And that is...in this case conservatives are supporting government regulation. And government regulation is contradictory to their guiding principles.

On the other hand, liberals, who don't mind government regulation and expect a lot of it, ironically are against this proposed government regulation.

The point is there is no black and white. Both sides want the best for our country, but we approach it differently. This is proof we overlap.

This wasn't intended to be about the pros and cons of a vaccine passport, but carry on as you wish.

Um, I do believe you have this completely backwards...

The GOP is against the Vaccine Passport. In fact, DeSantis is passing a law specifically denying it's use in Florida...

[Mike193534]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Because wearing a mask doesnt protect the wearer! It protects others from them. This has been explained since the start of the pandemic

I don’t understand this. If I have covid and wear a mask, you don’t have covid and don’t wear a mask is my mask protecting you? If this is true does this mean if I have covid and don’t wear a mask and you don’t have covid and wear a mask the mask is NOT protecting you? How is the mask only keeping covid inside mask but it allows covid to enter a mask? Are these masks one-way?

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Don't worry, if you come across the southern border you are free to do whatever. No vaccine or 6' distance necessary, mask maybe if in a group of 6 or less. If sick free medical care. Come on in.

Oh, and if you have kids? In - person schooling! And free T-Shirts that say 'Biden - Let me in!' to send to your family!!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Vaccine Passport doesn't seem much different than TSA PreCheck, Global Entry or Clear. All their purposes are to get you through a specific point faster, more conveniently and before others without the right paperwork. I'll bet if the government charged $100 for a Vaccine Passport you'd be waiting in line for hours to get one so you can beat the wait to get on a plane or boat or bus. .

It's not about doing anything "faster"...

It's about being allowed to do something or being denied the very same activity...

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by DeeCee Dubya

This is nothing more than a garden-variety flu virus

uh..what?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It's not everyone's liberty and freedom. The vaccine cards ALREADY EXIST. Many international travelers ALREADY have them, for other vaccines. If you want to go THERE, then THOSE PEOPLE THERE want proof that you won't spread a deadly illness in their direction. You're welcome to stay where you are, no one is forcing you to go there. THEY have the freedom to say "you're not invited." So stop trying to jump on their freedom.

"Those people there" don't have a little piece of paper called The Constitution...

THEY can do whatever they like...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No, we don't "have to" wear masks. He recommends it. But we don't have to. Although businesses might require you to anyway. And here's the fun part: even if Fauci says "you know what - it's time. Everyone remove your masks!" businesses can STILL require that you wear them.

The State of Florida has never mandated masks. Even while Fauci urged everyone to wear them.

Biden is now calling on Governors to re-instate or start a "mask mandate"...

So yeah, he want's us to HAVE to wear masks... For how long? No one knows...

[Pat2015]

“No COVID-19 vaccines have been approved. Approval means the FDA has officially decided that a product is safe and effective for its designated use. The process for approval involves rigorous reviews of all available data on the product and can take several months. They are instead emergency use authorizations that have been issued.”

[doodles]

The bottom line is if the airline, cruise ship, amusement park or office etc require proof of vaccine for you to enter it is their right the same as they have a right to require a mask.

[Pat2015]

I’m not spouting any nonsense by pointing out that the vaccines are not FDA approved but are being offered under an emergency usage authorization. That’s a fact, not nonsense.

[jh214]

Funny how the Dems want a vaccine passport, but do not want an ID to vote. How in the world can a person not have an ID? Do they never go to a bank, take a flight, get a hotel, or go to a doctor? You and I both know why they don't want voters to not have to show an ID.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

"Those people there" don't have a little piece of paper called The Constitution...

THEY can do whatever they like...

And that's why THEY can say NO when you want to travel to THEIR country.

That's the entire point of all this.

Our constitution rights END at our borders. THEIR country, THEIR rules. I do a LOT of international travel - have been doing do for 40 years. So, yeah, you've got to learn that we have to abide by THEIR rules.

If THEY say 'thou must haveth a Vaccine Passport to pass into our lands', then, by God, you'll have one or you'll stay right here.

I get the sentiment, though!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Shoogley

Wear the mask
Vaccinated or not
Till the Covid virus is no longer with us.

The fact that you think that this virus will ever go away is hysterical...

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

"Those people there" don't have a little piece of paper called The Constitution...

THEY can do whatever they like...

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

It's not about doing anything "faster"...

It's about being allowed to do something or being denied the very same activity...

So, if the airlines mandate it, what then?