[Taltarzac725]

Submarine used to view Titanic wreckage went missing in the Atlantic. A search is underway | CNN

I hope they get back to the surface. I do wonder how they can search at almost two and a half miles down. Submarine on expedition to Titanic wreck goes missing, "search and rescue operation" underway - CBS News

[Taltarzac725]

Some more on the story. Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way - BBC News

I recall boarding the USS Drum in Mobile Bay, AL. in 1996 and was feeling cramped. USS Drum – USS Alabama Battleship Memorial Park

[retiredguy123]

Question: Who will pay for the U.S. Coast Guard search and rescue mission of a non-US vessel that charges weathly tourists $250K each to visit the Titanic?

Answer: U.S. taxpayers

[Stu from NYC]

As long as the ship is whole they have 4 days to get them out apparently.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

As long as the ship is whole they have 4 days to get them out apparently.

I hope they find them but it sounds like if they reach the surface they cannot open the sub from inside. They have to wait for someone to find them in time before their air runs out.

I do seem to see history repeating itself. Too Big to Fail: Disaster, Colossal Hubris, and The Titanic | by Lindsay Merbaum | Medium

[Tvflguy]

After reviewing all the news coverage, I conclude that the greatest issue that caused the silence from the sub is …. Implosion. Only takes a tiny leak or crack - and a millisecond to implode like an aluminum can.

Good news, it’s an instantaneous death. Bad news, no way for anyone to know and search/rescue is futile.

We may never know. And their families.

I would like to know how many successful dives this sub made that deep. It’s risky business.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Question: Who will pay for the U.S. Coast Guard search and rescue mission of a non-US vessel that charges weathly tourists $250K each to visit the Titanic?

Answer: U.S. taxpayers

Hope not. Bet there is not any way for the REAL equipment needed to do this job is not anywhere near this area.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Hope not. Bet there is not any way for the REAL equipment needed to do this job is not anywhere near this area.

I agree. But, our country is spending millions on this project, and now they are sending a nuclear sub to the area, which will cost even more millions. I'll bet you a dollar that we will not ask Canada or the submarine owner to reimburse us for anything. And, they won't provide the U.S. taxpayers any accounting on how much of their money they spent. We are suckers.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

After reviewing all the news coverage, I conclude that the greatest issue that caused the silence from the sub is …. Implosion. Only takes a tiny leak or crack - and a millisecond to implode like an aluminum can.

Good news, it’s an instantaneous death. Bad news, no way for anyone to know and search/rescue is futile.

We may never know. And their families.

I would like to know how many successful dives this sub made that deep. It’s risky business.

Logic would seem to support a catastrophic event. If it was simply a communication failure, I would think that protocol would be to end the event.

Also, seems that even if design does not accommodate exit from the inside, that it could at minimum provide access to air from/to the inside.

If a private company develops a risky activity for profit with no government approval or agreement, there should be no expectation of unlimited risk or expenditure by the government. Perhaps there is a huge insurance policy covering some expense.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

After reviewing all the news coverage, I conclude that the greatest issue that caused the silence from the sub is …. Implosion. Only takes a tiny leak or crack - and a millisecond to implode like an aluminum can.

I tried to hope for an electrical failure, but after reading all the backup systems. . i reluctantly have to agree with the same conclusion.

former licensed ship captain and pilot. . .

[Taltarzac725]

June 20, 2023 Missing Titanic sub search news

Saw this on CNN a few minutes ago.

Missing Titanic Sub: ‘Banging’ Sounds Heard During Search – Rolling Stone

[Malsua]

If you look into the various details on this craft, you realize it is not particularly a robust vehicle.

Maybe the off brand Xbox controller they use to drive it around failed.

It probably imploded though. All-in-all, that would be better than sitting on the bottom waiting for a rescue that won't make it in time. By the time the pressure ignited your clothing like you were in the ignition chamber of a diesel engine, the water would snuff it out. When the flash hit their retinas, they're dead. Just poof, gone.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree. But, our country is spending millions on this project, and now they are sending a nuclear sub to the area, which will cost even more millions. I'll bet you a dollar that we will not ask Canada or the submarine owner to reimburse us for anything. And, they won't provide the U.S. taxpayers any accounting on how much of their money they spent. We are suckers.

I can think of a whole lot more awful ways for a nuclear sub to spend its time than on a mission of mercy.

[Sabella]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree. But, our country is spending millions on this project, and now they are sending a nuclear sub to the area, which will cost even more millions. I'll bet you a dollar that we will not ask Canada or the submarine owner to reimburse us for anything. And, they won't provide the U.S. taxpayers any accounting on how much of their money they spent. We are suckers.

This goes on all the time, when our government officials, send firefighters and any type of aid or assistance to foreign countries. Keep working that overtime and you and your family have to do without some thing because of the price while USA taxpayers pay the bill. let’s not forget about the members of Congress and their families and members of their staff .They go on all these fact-finding trips (vacations)to foreign countries on the taxpayers dime .

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Sabella

This goes on all the time, when our government officials, send firefighters and any type of aid or assistance to foreign countries. Keep working that overtime and you and your family have to do without some thing because of the price while USA taxpayers pay the bill. let’s not forget about the members of Congress and their families and members of their staff .They go on all these fact-finding trips (vacations)to foreign countries on the taxpayers dime .

It is the American Way, and not a bad one in my opinion. Much of the time, whenever there is tragedy or catastrophe in the world, America is there to help. Not paid. Often not even asked. But there to share our technology and know-how.

Most of us have heard Gordon Sinclair's piece "The Americans: A Canadian's Opinion". It first came out in the early 1970s but is no less true today. It is still available online and is worth a listen. It is probably not terribly popular in some circles where "hate America first" is popular among the self-appointed intellectuals, but there is nothing so affirmative of the American spirit as Mr. Sinclair's recitation. No matter how many times I've heard it, I always feel a deep pride that I am a citizen of a nation--probably the ONLY nation--that will stand up and help, with nothing asked in return.

So--help. As an American taxpayer I feel that there are few better ways to spend my nickel.