[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jrosaltal1

Did he know his DX before all his events and didn't care?

Trump attended the NJ fundraising event after knowing he was exposed to Hope Hicks who had tested positive. Aren't we supposed to self quarantine if we are aware we have been in contact with someone who tests positive? What was he thinking?

[tvbound]

Let's look a little further in the future. Besides the obvious lesson of what can happen by not following almost universally prescribed precautions by medical experts and getting the virus, I believe up until now we have already learned quite a bit from this. Chief among them are the wildly varying stories we citizens keep being told regarding the timelines, seriousness and facts on what has happened. What I also predict, is that when he gets through it (I think the odds are good that he will) many will start using the fact that he made it (ignoring the obvious in that he had every resource in the world available, which the average person doesn't) to say - "see, it isn't all that bad after all."

Should that occur, then IMHO this nation will have been set back tremendously in trying to truly get our arms around this pandemic and the couple hundred thousand (just to date) who have already died, will be but just a small beginning. For the long term benefit of our great nation, I have never before in my life, hoped harder that I am completely wrong. This is a lifetime opportunity for a leader to do immeasurable good, by uttering the simple phrase of - "I was wrong."

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Ralpha

I couldn’t agree with you more! I hope the fools who refused to listen to science will come to their senses and pay attention to what they say. Trump should be living proof of what happens when you ignore and poo poo off the experts.

Along with Boris, prince Charles, and 100 plus more. O make that millions more.

[Brynnie]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

Does anyone know what to make of the huge spike in positive rates in Sumter County on September 29 and 30 according to Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak The county had been at about 4% on average and then spiked up to 21% on 9/29 and 22% on 9/30.

I was told that several test results were backlogged and reported all at once, which is the reason for the large number in one day.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Actually the administration has been actively asking people to remove their masks, as with the Rose Garden, and refusing requests from others to don them, as in Cleveland the entourage asked by a doctor to remove and they refused.

Yes, I'm aware of this and I am appalled by it.

[bumpygreens]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

“Large, well ventilated spaces...” You mean like the Rose Garden?
Or the Squares?

Yes. That's exactly what I mean. Outdoors is very safe especially if you can maintain some space between yourself and others. The White House is one of the most secure places on earth, but hundreds of people work there, and hundreds more go in and out on official business. People who work there are tested daily; some are tested more than once in a day; visitors are tested. But tests can give false results. All it takes is one inaccurate test, and all the precautions are worthless. Most of the people in the rose garden were probably in the White House first. That's the way it usually works for state functions. My guess is negative screenings made most of them feel pretty secure, and they weren't as cautious as they could have been while inside.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Exposed such a wide open word. Exposed like being in Close contact? I sure he’s tested daily. We are all exposed to virus when we’re out in public, that why we social distance, wash ours hands, and wear mask. Some people put themselves at risk and some don’t have clue how the caught the virus. Only thing we peons can do is protect ourselves using guidelines.

It has been reported that the rapid Abbot tests which have been used at the White House are only 50% accurate. How helpful is that? It isn't.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Let's look a little further in the future. Besides the obvious lesson of what can happen by not following almost universally prescribed precautions by medical experts and getting the virus, I believe up until now we have already learned quite a bit from this. Chief among them are the wildly varying stories we citizens keep being told regarding the timelines, seriousness and facts on what has happened. What I also predict, is that when he gets through it (I think the odds are good that he will) many will start using the fact that he made it (ignoring the obvious in that he had every resource in the world available, which the average person doesn't) to say - "see, it isn't all that bad after all."

Should that occur, then IMHO this nation will have been set back tremendously in trying to truly get our arms around this pandemic and the couple hundred thousand (just to date) who have already died, will be but just a small beginning. For the long term benefit of our great nation, I have never before in my life, hoped harder that I am completely wrong. This is a lifetime opportunity for a leader to do immeasurable good, by uttering the simple phrase of - "I was wrong."

Can I "like" this 100000000000000000000 times? Please?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Can I "like" this 100000000000000000000 times? Please?

Plus one.

Leadership in January when first advised would have been great, but even late might save lives.

[Marshaw]

Just remember 99.4% recovery. Pretty darn good if you ask me. Enjoy life just be careful not fearfull

[jmcote]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Let's look a little further in the future. Besides the obvious lesson of what can happen by not following almost universally prescribed precautions by medical experts and getting the virus, I believe up until now we have already learned quite a bit from this. Chief among them are the wildly varying stories we citizens keep being told regarding the timelines, seriousness and facts on what has happened. What I also predict, is that when he gets through it (I think the odds are good that he will) many will start using the fact that he made it (ignoring the obvious in that he had every resource in the world available, which the average person doesn't) to say - "see, it isn't all that bad after all."

Should that occur, then IMHO this nation will have been set back tremendously in trying to truly get our arms around this pandemic and the couple hundred thousand (just to date) who have already died, will be but just a small beginning. For the long term benefit of our great nation, I have never before in my life, hoped harder that I am completely wrong. This is a lifetime opportunity for a leader to do immeasurable good, by uttering the simple phrase of - "I was wrong."

Never going to happen.

[Scbang]

Originally Posted by Marshaw

Just remember 99.4% recovery. Pretty darn good if you ask me. Enjoy life just be careful not fearfull

True, but what about your neighbors, friends or your loved ones you might infect unintentionally?

Let's just review some facts. I am not an MD but from a engineer's perspective.

One sneeze can spit out 3000 droplets traveling 200 mph and can travel 40+ feet.
Each droplet can contain 5000+ viruses. Everyone including very old and weak still has some immunity to fight off the virus even CV. If you caught 1 virus, you might still be OK.
It's numbers game, if you are in a proximity to a infected person without a mask ( not necessarily 6 ft but closer the worse ) your chances of catching CV dramatically increases even if you are very healthy. Then your are asymptomatic but still dangerous for the rest of the population because you are not aware that you can kill many others.

Asians have been wearing masks for decades. Not just for flu and cold but also for allergies. Just imagine someone sneezed without covering their mouth in front of you and you felt a droplet in your face. Even a healthy person can carry a lot of bacteria and/or virus.

So, wearing a mask protects other people from your germs. Also minimize number of viruses you might be exposed to. There is no 100% protection unless you wear hazard suit 24 hours. So, at this moment, nobody knows whether one has CV or not. Even when you have been tested negative for CV yesterday, you could have caught it right after that.

Let's wear a mask for humanity and for yourself.

[Hackercraft]

How do the masks prevent us from getting the virus?

[santiagobob]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

All it teaches us is that you can’t hide from a virus! Mask or no mask! I don’t wear a mask as I know they are useless! We will all be exposed to Covid just like we are the flu or the common cold. Trump has no co-morbidities so he will be past this in a week or so, just like 99% of those that get it!
The media has done a good job of tuning much of the population into paranoid people!

People who refuse to wear a mask have no regard for those around them. During the night time bombing of London, none of the Londoners broke the blackout by leaving their lights on by citing personal liberty and so putting others in danger.

[Rosebud1949]

MOST OF US who have not had, been negatively tested for, or do not intend to have this virus ALWAYS listened to the scientists. Always wore a mask, and were sensible in social distancing. Shame that those "know alls" in the White House, and many other places, DID NOT. Just how many have they infected now.. NO ONE IS IMMUNE.......

Originally Posted by skarra

I've been watching the recordings of the assembly in the Rose garden earlier this week, and it's hard to fathom what they were thinking - not wearing masks, shaking hands, hugging in some cases. Seems to go against everything our experts tell us.

But to me the biggest take-away is that even out in the open air, it looks like you can still get the virus if you don't practice social distancing. I know it's going to make me think twice about eating outside, and I'm re-thinking all my activites now.

Is there anything else that can be learned? Super-spreader events like this just seem all too common. I've still not had a hair cut in 8 months now, and don't see that changing any time soon.

We have to get back to listneing to the Scientists on this. Wishful thinking is not going to cut it folks, and I don't like playing Russian roulette.

I beelive Trump is not in great shape, so if there is some good from this it's that he may become a poster child for why we all need to take it seriously and wear masks when with others.