[Dave Laluk]

Originally Posted by claricecolin

The current spike now is most likely from Memorial day weekend. Numbers in the coming next 2 weeks are most likely from the protests and more things opening up.

I would agree that the spike we're seeing now is from Memorial Day Weekend AND the start of the re-opening. It takes about a week for exposed people to get symptoms. Another few days before they go to get tested. Another week to get results. Another week for the state to actually report them. So approximately 3 total weeks from exposure to seeing the published data. We may just be seeing the beginning.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by PennBF

A concern I have is whether we really know how many Covid-19 case there are in the Villages. Absent of broad testing we really don't know the percentages of the number of cases vs total population. Without proper testing we have no knowledge as to how many residents are asymptomatic and should be in any statistics? The question then is why we don't have broad testing within the villages. Not a few days on the Polo Fields or in Leesburg but regular on going testing in the villages. I mentioned this concern to a friend and the responses was "what impact do you think it would have on the sale of homes if it was advertised there were increases in the Virus in the Villages"? That was the first and most sensible answer I have received. Given the average resident is within the high risk group it did not make any sense to not have regular serious testing within the Villages!! We have elected to keep the current rules as the way to go until there are more realiable numbers regarding the percentages and exposures we face. As an aside I know at least one Medical Group will test if
you qualify to be tested. That is not what I mean. I mean regular broad testing by the Government, etc. for this high risk area.

Testing is very available in the villages I just got tested at CVS1 day notice took 10 minutes tops negative results in to the half days. There are lots of places.

[jacksonbrown]

Forget your political proclivities and see Dr. Siegel's explanation in the left-hand (videos) column here

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Yes once again blame the family, I’m sure there more interested in sellers by house then saving lives, you want to get tested go ahead I have because of a possible exposure it turned out to be nothing

[kendi]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Appears we have a spike in cases here in Florida. So I took a look at the Florida Dashboard county report to see where it's happening. The spike started on June 12.

Almost 70% of the new cases on June 12 came from 7 counties with Dade, Palm Beach, Broward, Hillsborough, and Orange counties racking up the highest numbers.

The average time from exposure to symptoms of covid 19 is 5-6 days. Huge protests for George Floyd took place on the weekend of June 5-6, and some of the largest ones were in these counties. Although it is harder to catch the virus outdoors, epidemiologists say that chanting and screaming expel more virus, exactly what happens in protests. They were packed together pretty tight in the larger protests.

Sumter County had no protests, and have had only 5 new cases in the last 9 days.
Marion County did have a protest, not thousands but several hundred, and they had a mini spike of 10 cases on June 12.

It's kind of funny that we still can't have fans at golf tournaments but many officials and even health departments gave their blessing to the protests, saying it was "too important"

Most of the media will try to blame reopening too early as cause of the spike, it was amazing how they switched from covid 19 24/7 to George Floyd 24/7

You can take a look at the Florida county data here:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf

Saw this from Mike Pence posted yesterday: "As the White House Coronavirus Task Force told America’s Governors today, despite hyperventilating by some in the media, only 11 counties out of over 3,100 are seeing a true acceleration in new Coronavirus cases & less than 2% of counties show any significant increase in cases." Wonder if the task force is including the seven you mention as part of the 11. Also wonder how much of the spike can be attributed to more testing. Not asking, just wondering. Usually I'd look into it, but not gonna waste time on it anymore. Time to move on.

[allsport]

Actually those counties went to the beaches on memorial day and that is the spike you are seeing. The outdoor protests are about 3 or 4 weeks away. It takes time to get the virus and then spread it and then more time, about 7 days, before you get sick enough to get admitted and then you have contaminated more and spread it farther. It is Memorial Day that you see.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by allsport

Actually those counties went to the beaches on memorial day and that is the spike you are seeing. The outdoor protests are about 3 or 4 weeks away. It takes time to get the virus and then spread it and then more time, about 7 days, before you get sick enough to get admitted and then you have contaminated more and spread it farther. It is Memorial Day that you see.

From incubation to death takes about eight days. Two of my friends in Ohio just did it. Little family birthday party. No one in a million years thought both grandparents would pass. 80 and 81.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by allsport

Actually those counties went to the beaches on memorial day and that is the spike you are seeing. The outdoor protests are about 3 or 4 weeks away. It takes time to get the virus and then spread it and then more time, about 7 days, before you get sick enough to get admitted and then you have contaminated more and spread it farther. It is Memorial Day that you see.

It doesn't take time to get the virus, you breath in a cloud of virus and you've got it unless you are immune in some way. Symptoms start on average 5-6 days later. People can start spreading virus 2 days before symptoms start. Most people get tested as soon as they get symptoms. I did not look at hospitalizations in OP, just new positive test results. Memorial Day may be part of this, but if that's true then it makes sense that protests are also part of this.

[kathy1516]

Originally Posted by PennBF

A concern I have is whether we really know how many Covid-19 case there are in the Villages. Absent of broad testing we really don't know the percentages of the number of cases vs total population. Without proper testing we have no knowledge as to how many residents are asymptomatic and should be in any statistics? The question then is why we don't have broad testing within the villages. Not a few days on the Polo Fields or in Leesburg but regular on going testing in the villages. I mentioned this concern to a friend and the responses was "what impact do you think it would have on the sale of homes if it was advertised there were increases in the Virus in the Villages"? That was the first and most sensible answer I have received. Given the average resident is within the high risk group it did not make any sense to not have regular serious testing within the Villages!! We have elected to keep the current rules as the way to go until there are more realiable numbers regarding the percentages and exposures we face. As an aside I know at least one Medical Group will test if
you qualify to be tested. That is not what I mean. I mean regular broad testing by the Government, etc. for this high risk area.

You don’t even need a doctors approval to get tested! Call Quest and get an appointment. Or you can have your doctor give you an order so insurance will cover. This is being done at CVS also. The tests are out there. Go get one if you’re worried.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by psoccermom

Jerry Deming, mayor of Orlando, said that contact tracing showed their spike was coming from bars and night clubs.

Ha! Proves the theory that STDs come from places of inebriation.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Some would rather blame the spike in cases on reopening. The fact that they can say protests of millions chanting and screaming while shoulder to shoulder is just fine while fans at golf tournaments or church services in a parking lot are dangerous is pretty comical.

The difference is they can't control the protests of milllions chanting and screaming while shoulder to shoulder without doing something wrong and appear on every news media across the country. Not having fans at private events can be controlled and when covered it's seen as a positive and prudent move by the owners and organizers. Same with churches although some are now optionally inside with spacing. Apples and oranges but I guess lumping everything together makes it easier huh? Our facts and perspective is only learded through hindsight with this sucker....everything looking forward is mostly speculation. The only thing we do know is that the only cure today is our immunce system and I'm not so sure I want mine to be the only line of defense.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by daca55

I don’t think the spikes are due to the protests. I have been keeping track of the numbers since the middle of May and they have been going up daily. With the protests and with more things opening the number of daily cases has nearly doubled. Let’s face it the virus is still with us and to go back our old normal life won’t happen until we have a vaccine. Norge mean time wash your hands and wear a mask.

Not according to the FL Department of Health. Percent positive went steadily down the first week of June, and then went up again.
Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by Pamelah

There has been a great deal more testing so of course the numbers will soar. Equally important or more so is the number of hospitalizations yet that’s often not reported.

True, change in hospitalization and death rates are the best metric. Next best is percent positive and that is published daily here in the following link. Percent positive was going down, then went up again. Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by bmit16

14 days is the max incubation time. George Floyd died on May 25th Memorial day. The protest started the next night May 26th. The op said the spikes started occuring around June 12th That is 18 days after the protest. The protest got more intense in the days following his death and are still going. I would say it is reasonable to assume the protest are playing a much bigger part than people want to admit.

The spikes in percent positive started occurring, at least in Florida, on June 6.
Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Dave Laluk

I would agree that the spike we're seeing now is from Memorial Day Weekend AND the start of the re-opening. It takes about a week for exposed people to get symptoms. Another few days before they go to get tested. Another week to get results. Another week for the state to actually report them. So approximately 3 total weeks from exposure to seeing the published data. We may just be seeing the beginning.

Where is this info coming from? Unless they live in a cave, people know the symptoms and get tested as soon as possible. Back in April it might have taken a week to get test results, now it takes one day in most urban locations. They have new mobile labs that give results in 45 minutes. The state doesn't take a week to post results, they put them up as soon as they get them.