[Tmarkwald]

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Katieburr

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

That is the truth? And how do you know that is the truth? Did you see it written on stone tablets? Or did you hear it from the same man who said wearing masks would give a false sense of security and would be worse than no mask at all.....until he changed his mind?

Fauci is dealing with new information and sometimes has to change guidance based on that new information. Unfortunately, he seems to also be leveraging his reputation to attempt to drive public behaviors. "Fauci said" is heard more often than "Simon says" these days. In the case of the masks, he acknowledged that part of the reason for his initial message was to preserve masks for doctors - he was trying to drive our behavior. In the case of the number of vaccinations needed for herd immunity he acknowledged that he increased his estimate when he learned that more people were accepting the vaccine - it was off to a good start so he could shoot higher and attempt to get even more people on board.

I trust his expertise but I don't trust the man. I believe he knows his field but I suspect this virus is doing things he doesn't expect and he's struggling to understand it. When he talks about science he has credibility but when he attempts to sway public opinion and drive behaviors he loses it.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Katieburr

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Fauci did not keep me alive.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Could it be that things change because we learn more? The vaccine will protect you and if you don't care about others you can go back to normal. They don't know if, even though you probably won't get sick, if you can carry and spread. So if that's a possibility you decide if you want to protect your friends, kids and grand kids.

Exactly.

[Nucky]

He needs to be taken behind the school for a beatin'.

I am disappointed in him for many reasons. I'm like Quick Draw McGraw with the remote when he comes on TV.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Fauci is consistently inconsistent. In my book, he has ZERO credibility.

It's like he is trying to keep everyone happy.

In the beginning the wind was blowing one way, then the wind shifted and he shifted as well...

I do not trust him..

I do trust him. I trust his background and his expertise, his knowledge and lack of it. This variation of the Corona Virus, Covid-19 had never been encountered by a human before and so what it did to people; to thousands of people, millions of people had not been studied before. I think he did as well as any person in the the entire world in answering questions to the best of his knowledge about what would happen.

It must have been very difficult because the main person in charge is never as qualified to understand things like this Pandemic. And this is true of all Presidents before him. It was almost a year before the person in office before this one had a Surgeon General and people placed in quarantine during the threat of Ebola in Maine, ignored the order to be quarantined. Ebola kills 50% of those infected although it isn't as contagious by far.. No President I have known have been experts on medicine and sometimes what the medical people have to say is at odds to what would be best to keep the country running. So these cross purposes and downright lack of knowledge is thrust at the person who must give directions on the nations health. I felt for him time and time again. What a hot seat he has sat in over time.

[Velvet]

I also have great respect for Dr. Fauci, but he makes judgments I don’t always agree with. I would prefer strictly data from him and not opinions. I was not happy when he said masks do not help people. He didn’t explain why he said that in March last year which would have helped me to accept his statement. He does not want people to delay the second dose even though there is data to show that one dose is highly effective and can last for some time. So there are two of his judgements I personally disagree with. But on the whole, I am quite happy with many of his other suggestions.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.

Just after January 20th, Dr. Fauci made an announcement on TV and he said he can FINALLY be transparent to Americans about the pandemic. He said he would always tell the American people the truth now that he can be transparent.

What does that tell ya????

[coffeebean]

Oops. Duplicate post.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Early on, he said the USA has nothing to worry about.


Early on, he said wearing a mask is not necessary.

This is a reply I made on another forum. This was my response to someone who claimed that Dr. Fauci said we did not have to wear masks if we were not symptomatic..........

I truly believe Dr. Fauci lied alright and I will never forgive him, even if it came from the top to tell the American people this lie. The reason I say this is because Dr. Fauci has worked with respiratory viruses his entire career and has devoted his life's work to epidemiology. The influenza virus has asymptomatic carriers of the virus so it was very possible the Covid virus would also. Why not err on the safe side???



Respiratory viruses are transmitted by droplets and aerosols and the Covid virus is no different. Dr. Fauci knew this. I understand why he lied. He even said he lied to us but for a good reason. He said he did not want Americans to purchase all the PPE that the health care professionals needed to take care of sick Covid patients. He apologized for the lie. I heard him say it in an interview on TV.



I honestly think if he and the administration at the time. were honest with the American people, we could have had a handle on the pandemic better than we have faired. Home made masks were better than nothing for protection but very effective for source control. All Dr. Fauci had to tell the American people was to cover our faces when in public with anything other than N95 or KN95 masks. Leave those N95 and KN95 masks for the health care professionals who are on the front lines fighting the war against Covid.



Just out of curiosity, early on in the pandemic, I went to Amazon to see how many N95 or KN95 masks there were and how much they were. To my surprise, every single listing for N95 or KN95 masks were blocked off to the public. They were only for sale for health care providers and health care facilities. That is all it took to prevent the general public from preventing those supplies from going to the health care professionals.



I firmly believe Dr. Fauci's hands were "tied" by his boss at the time. And I'm so damn mad about that!
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Having said all that.......I would like to add to this above comment that I still do trust Dr. Fauci. He made it very clear to the American people in months after the pandemic began, that he did lie about us not needing masks if we were not having symptoms but for a good reason. At least he admitted to the lie which, to me, is a testament to the man's character. He finally told us the truth which is more than I can say for his previous boss.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

I have zero confidence in someone who changes his mind more often than a hooker at a bankers convention and believes The Who is doing a good job.

Science evolves and so does this virus. What was true yesterday may not be true today. If you follow science, you know this. I listen to the man who has devoted his entire professional life to epidemiology.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by canyonblue

Exactly! With the stupid comments that come out of his mouth, he pushes more and more people to forgo the vaccine if being vaccinated still forbids you from returning to a normal life.

The vaccines prevent death and long haul side effects. Isn't that enough of an incentive to consider being vaccinated?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Who else is tired of the Covid debate in general?

Not I said the cat!!!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Katieburr

Dr Fauci has kept us all alive for the past year. I trust him to keep us on top of all the latest information. The fact is, Dr Fauci is learning new information every day, just like we are. Every day there is something else to adjust to, and something else for Dr Fauci to disseminate to the world. We have never experienced a global pandemic and we are all just learning as we go. Give the guy a break. Frankly, what I worry more about is all the villagers wandering around with no masks like the pandemic is over. The truth is that if everyone had worn masks from the very beginning this would all be over. Ponder that for awhile.

Truer words were never spoken. IMHO, I have always thought that if EVERYONE wore a mask in public AND kept a safe distance from others ALL THE TIME, we would not be in this mess of a pandemic.

[Garwood1]

If you have watched Fauci then I wonder which way he’s going tomorrow as he’s changed course at least 3-4 since thus started , and scientists live for grants so they can do their pet projects so they have interesting being in the forefront so I don’t always trust their motives either