[Road Apple]

49,000 died by gunfire in 2021 and 140,000 from alcohol abuse. Where’s the problem? Regardless, neither are ever going to go away.

[Blueblaze]

Besides the absurdity of banning a tool because lunatics exist who might misuse it, we ought to thank our lucky stars that one of those tools is the mass-murder's tool of choice -- the AR15 sporting rifle.

Have it ever occurred to you that, if not for AR15's, lunatics might choose a tool that DOES NOT NEED TO BE AIMED?

Your own home contains all the ingredients necessary to build a far more lethal weapon than an AR15. And, believe it or not, even lunatics have access to Google. Maybe it's time for some common-sense Google control!

Hey, I have an idea! What if we sent the FBI to check on a guy who posts on Facebook that he's just killed his grandma and now he's on his way to the kindergarten where kids were mean to him 15 years ago! Just saying -- they always tell us they're going to do it. Instead of limiting their choice of weapons to WMD's, how about we just pick them up and toss them in a loonie bin before they do it -- like they used to do when we were kids and didn't have to worry about lunatics shooting up our kindergartens!

[Heytubes]

Unfortunately mandatory gun registration doesn’t work for the criminals. Such nonsense.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Bows and arrows must be on your list of things to ban also. How about fishing rods? Spears, swords, javelins, etc.

Whether you accept it or not, shooting things at targets is as a universal human activity. It is a sport and the things that are projected are not evil.

Have you read ANY of my posts? In none of them have I suggested that we ban guns. None. I am AGAINST banning guns. That's why you won't ever see any post of mine recommending the banning of them.

And - I have a bow and arrows. I'm a pretty good shot at up to 40 yards, too. But I don't hunt, never did. I don't begrudge anyone who chooses to (or needs to) hunt for their food, it's a noble activity.

That doesn't make guns any less designed for the purpose of killing. That is why they were invented. They were invented so humans could have an efficient method of killing. Killing animals, killing people, the operative word is killing. People who use guns for target practice and nothing else, don't reduce this fact that guns are designed expressly for killing.

I'm absolutely fine with guns existing, and people possessing them. I don't allow them in my house, and I will never own one. But that's my choice.

What I am in favor of - is tighter and better enforced regulations, more accountability, and more severe penalties for violating those regulations. So for instance - rob a bank with a butcher knife? 20 years if convicted. Rob a bank with a LEGALLY-possessed firearm? 30 years if convicted. Rob a bank with an UNlawfully-possessed firearm? 50 years if convicted.

[bp243]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

Apples and oranges. Driving a car is a privilege. Owning a firearm is a Constitutional right. Yes..there is a difference.

Would you be in favor of having to "qualify" to cast a vote? How about to exercise free speech? Or, going to the church of your choice? Get it?

The second amendment was never meant for 2023. Owning a firearm should be a privilege as is driving a car for those who are qualified.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by bp243

The second amendment was never meant for 2023. Owning a firearm should be a privilege as is driving a car for those who are qualified.

I went back and read the 2nd Amendment and I couldn't find an expiration date anywhere. As far as I know, the authors of it did not stipulate an expiration date or their intent that the 2nd Amendment was not meant for 2023.

[Number 10 GI]

Back in the late 80's, if I remember correctly, I read an article based on a study about homicides in the U.S. vs Mexico. There were more knife homicides in Mexico than there were homicides from all means, guns, knives, bludgeons, etc., in the U.S. in the period studied.
Private firearm ownership in Mexico is nearly nonexistent due to very restrictive laws requiring a months long process for permission to purchase one. There is only one gun shop in the entire country located just outside Mexico City, so anyone willing to endure the draconian application process some will have to travel a great distance to this shop.
Just like the U.S., Mexico's constitution allows for the private ownership of firearms, but the Mexican government has made the process an arduous one that most people can't take on. Their government is restricting a constitutional right. This is the same thing the as the Jim Crow voting process for minorities that violated constitutional rights in our country.
Mexico has been experiencing record firearm homicides in recent years with machine guns being used frequently in mass shootings. Doesn't sound like their gun control measures are working very well. There are reports that in Australia and England, knife assaults and knife homicides are rising to record levels. A knife, gun, baseball bat, and tire irons are a tools a criminal uses to practice his trade. If one isn't available another one will be used.
We need criminal control!

[DAVES]

We tend to seek a one line answer to the most complex issues. That one line answer-surprise-matches our already existent bias.
How many remember when we were told violence in cartoons is the cause of violence?

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Have you read ANY of my posts? In none of them have I suggested that we ban guns. None. I am AGAINST banning guns. That's why you won't ever see any post of mine recommending the banning of them.

And - I have a bow and arrows. I'm a pretty good shot at up to 40 yards, too. But I don't hunt, never did. I don't begrudge anyone who chooses to (or needs to) hunt for their food, it's a noble activity.

That doesn't make guns any less designed for the purpose of killing. That is why they were invented. They were invented so humans could have an efficient method of killing. Killing animals, killing people, the operative word is killing. People who use guns for target practice and nothing else, don't reduce this fact that guns are designed expressly for killing.

I'm absolutely fine with guns existing, and people possessing them. I don't allow them in my house, and I will never own one. But that's my choice.

What I am in favor of - is tighter and better enforced regulations, more accountability, and more severe penalties for violating those regulations. So for instance - rob a bank with a butcher knife? 20 years if convicted. Rob a bank with a LEGALLY-possessed firearm? 30 years if convicted. Rob a bank with an UNlawfully-possessed firearm? 50 years if convicted.

We attempt to legislate. Law needs to apply to all. Not adjusted for each person's view. It is interesting that their are states where guns are legal and crossbows are not. No shortage of books on the subject of do guns lead to violence.

A bank ad. Our bank guards no longer carry guns. They are armed with bows and arrows.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by DAVES

We attempt to legislate. Law needs to apply to all. Not adjusted for each person's view. It is interesting that their are states where guns are legal and crossbows are not. No shortage of books on the subject of do guns lead to violence.

A bank ad. Our bank guards no longer carry guns. They are armed with bows and arrows.

Wonder if the bank will fire a guard who engages the robbers?

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

‘Shocked and heartbroken’: Patient shoots, kills doctor in exam room

Get rid of the guns or get rid of the people. . .

get rid of the guns so that someone with anger and irrational issues doesn't have a chance to do something stupid. .

No form of prohibition has ever worked.

[MrFlorida]

When someone comits a crime with a gun, the media should report weather the gun was legal or not, also the persons rap sheet, but that would take up the whole front page. Criminals don't care about stricter laws.

[MrFlorida]

Weren't bows and arrows invented for killing?

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Weren't bows and arrows invented for killing?

The English long bow archer utilized by the army was a formidable weapon that greatly affected the outcome of many battles.

[RUCdaze]

I'm calling for total knife control, total baseball bat control, total hammer control, and most of all, total car control. God knows these things have a mind of their own and kill people,