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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

While that's certainly fine when you're with like minded people, there is a code of etiquette that has been around golf for centuries and is accepted by almost all golfers. In fact there are even a few pages in the rule book about it.

It's not about one person adapting to a group or the group adapting to one person. It's about people having respect for one another. It's about adapting to long standing customs that have been around the game of golf for centuries.

Agree with you. The code of etiquette is also mostly just good manners and respect for others. Also agree with Golfingeagles point that not everyone needs golf class.
Although I was never very good, I still enjoyed playing for many reasons. My father learned from a real pro who taught him all the rules. Dad taught me, using that teaching as re-enforcement for his own game. Because of his business relationships, he was able to play many exclusive course, occasionally I got to go along. Good manners, etiquette and sportsmanship was drummed in.
However, I realize that many, if not most, never had the benefit of instruction by a real pro. I also realise there are a lot of folks (duffers) who are well past their best years or are new to the game and just want to have fun but don't have a clue about golf etiquette. players also pressure of "ready or hurry up golf" which pushes players to keep moving that negatively impacts their game.
So, since not everyone moves at the same speed or has the same skills, perhaps it might be advisable to have players skills and type of game made known to those setting tee times so that players may be grouped with players of abilities and play attitude as their own. How to accomplish this, I don't know, but if it could be done there would be less folks having bad days on the course.

[Fred2016]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I'm having a difficult time enjoying myself on the golf course due to the behavior of people I play with. I usually sign up as a single and get paired with different people. Most of them are very nice and I'm sure that I'd have no problem with them off the course. But too many of them have no idea about golf etiquette.
I played with two guys today who just wouldn't stop talking. They had no idea where anyone's ball was and generally didn't understand the need to keep quiet, not walk on other player's lines, not let there shadows go where they can break a player's concentration.
Now I understand that a lot of people, especially those that play executive courses are out for fun, sunshine and exercise. But there are some of us that are trying to hit good shots and shoot a score.
When I play golf, my concentration begins when I start to line up my shot. I stand behind the ball pick out an aiming point and envision the shot that I'm going to hit.
Today on the first hole, these two guys are talking and I was getting ready to hit. I got over my ball and they didn't stop so I back away and gave them a look. They finally shut up but just as I'm about to take the club away the two of them walked behind me and cast their shadows over my ball. I backed away again and they didn't get it.
They did this over and over for nine holes. On one hole, the fourth member of the group was standing over a four foot putt for par and one of them starts talking in the middle of his backswing.
On another hole, one of them dropped two clubs on my ball marker and walked up my line. That not bad enough but the guy must have weighed close to 300 pounds.
If you haven't played golf before, or you're a casual golfer, I understand that these things may not be important to you, but you need to learn to be considerate of other people. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, go to the good golf school and read a bit about golf etiquette. It will make for better relationships and make golf much more pleasant for everyone.
I feel bad that I went out to have an enjoyable day and come home and have to write something like this.

Start talking when they are about to hit.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by stadry

good post on the 'golf school',,, i was ignorant of it til now but believe many won't bother - we shall attend,,, thanks !

exec courses - probably lots of hackers compared to champ courses so expect less boorish behavior on champs - execs are free so nothing invested

has never bothered me to advise gorillas of ill-mannered actions IF its true, annoying, or flagrant violation of golf rules,,, how many people now wear soft cleats because so many couldn't be bothered to pick up their feet when they walked on the greens ?

There are quite a number of hackers on the champion courses as well. You should not be learning golf on a champion course but rather the executive course and the easiest one at that. It shouldn’t take four plus hours to play 18 on any champion course here but when you voice your concern you’re told if you look on the scorecard it states total course time four hours and fifteen minutes. See how many times you exceed that. Regardless of what they state, you should be done in four or less on these courses

[terrykomar]

Amen to your remarks! I have golf jerks coming through our hedges and hitting the ball out of my yard. They are trespassing on private property. We live on the second green of Churchill. No golf etiquette whatsoever.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by timinthevillages

I play in a group of about 20 mon wed and fri. If you see us run run for the hills. We really don't keep score. We improve lives. Talk and make fun of each other constantly. Take group brides shots and fun is our main motivation. I hope you dont expect all of us to change our behavior for a single. In my opinion if you join a group it's your responsibility to adapt not the other way around.

I wonder, would the "group bride shots" be with or without masks on?

[yankygrl]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I'm having a difficult time enjoying myself on the golf course due to the behavior of people I play with. I usually sign up as a single and get paired with different people. Most of them are very nice and I'm sure that I'd have no problem with them off the course. But too many of them have no idea about golf etiquette.
I played with two guys today who just wouldn't stop talking. They had no idea where anyone's ball was and generally didn't understand the need to keep quiet, not walk on other player's lines, not let there shadows go where they can break a player's concentration.
Now I understand that a lot of people, especially those that play executive courses are out for fun, sunshine and exercise. But there are some of us that are trying to hit good shots and shoot a score.
When I play golf, my concentration begins when I start to line up my shot. I stand behind the ball pick out an aiming point and envision the shot that I'm going to hit.
Today on the first hole, these two guys are talking and I was getting ready to hit. I got over my ball and they didn't stop so I back away and gave them a look. They finally shut up but just as I'm about to take the club away the two of them walked behind me and cast their shadows over my ball. I backed away again and they didn't get it.
They did this over and over for nine holes. On one hole, the fourth member of the group was standing over a four foot putt for par and one of them starts talking in the middle of his backswing.
On another hole, one of them dropped two clubs on my ball marker and walked up my line. That not bad enough but the guy must have weighed close to 300 pounds.
If you haven't played golf before, or you're a casual golfer, I understand that these things may not be important to you, but you need to learn to be considerate of other people. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, go to the good golf school and read a bit about golf etiquette. It will make for better relationships and make golf much more pleasant for everyone.
I feel bad that I went out to have an enjoyable day and come home and have to write something like this.

Sorry doc but if you continue to put in as a single you run the risk of exactly what you stated every time you play. Find 3 other friends and put in for a foursome. I personally will not let unknown golfers play in my groups at this time, so only complete foursomes get requested - no odd numbers.

[sallybowron]

You idea is a good one for full timers and snowbirds but for renters or people who will not be here for a long time you might have more luck selling snake oil.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Jeanette.U

Wait a minute...aren’t you the same guy who found the female announcers excitement extremely annoying (during Space X/NASA launch)

What does that have to do with this discussion????

[JR&TR]

What time of day do you play? I always used to get one of the earliest tee times. Always seemed to me you’d run into the same players, and for lack of better words, more “experienced” players. Would get done early, go to breakfast. On the days we played in the afternoon, much slower pace of play, and more “casual” players.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by yankygrl

. Find 3 other friends and put in for a foursome.

Therein lies the problem.

[TooColdNJ]

How about a few words instead of looks? I don’t belong in this thread because I’m not a golfer, but how about something as simple as, “Could you all please keep it down for a minute. My handicap on this hole is ADD,” and I can’t concentrate.” Giving “looks” is just as rude, because they’re usually perceived as dirty ones.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by joseppe

Sounds like you have no interest in the game of golf. If just your group there's no issue as long as you do not hold up play for others, rake bunkers, repair ball marks and fix divots. If you're not going to respect the game or the course why play golf? Even a single outsider joining your group deserves the courtesy of your at least respecting his game and his right to enjoy the game in the manner prescribed by golf etiquette and the rules of golf.

Sow play is another whole and very important issue. I played last week and we waited on every shot from the first tee to the last. Now some people say, "You're retired, what's your hurry".

Well, in the first place, I'm there to play golf, not watch people that can barely play try to play.

But more importantly, here is what actually happened on that day. The weather was fine when we started. Clouds began rolling in when we were about on the sixth hole. It was obvious that it was going to rain. When we got to the ninth tee we felt a few drops. By the time the group that had been holding us up the whole round was finished, it was raining very lightly. We finished the ninth hole and I jumped in my cart and headed home. By the time I was half way home (I live about a half mile from the course) it was pouring buckets. All I could think was that I'm caught in this rain storm, getting drenched because those people in front of me were inconsiderate of others.
And that really what this is all about. Not just maintaining a reasonable pace of play, but being considerate of others. Most people do every where else, but don't seem to understand what being considerate means on a golf course.
On another note. I played with three people yesterday who were an absolute delight. I played horribly. They really weren't good players, but they were a delight. One of them yelled something out during one of my swings and apologized for it. I told him that it was no big deal and that happens to everyone. It's one thing to make a mistake. It's completely different to not understand the rules of common courtesy and not care about them.

[bilcon]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Oh my I’m so sad for you . Please call the family I’m sure it’s there fault .

What's this got to do with the family. He is right on about poor etiquette on the course. You obviously are not a golfer. Some of us really go out there to play golf not to have brunch.
I also go out alone and hook up with other guys. I have no problem how well the others play, but there is no excuse for not knowing the simple etiquette on the course. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn a few rules. Wake up or go play pickle ball.

Whenever I find myself around a distracting player I just say to myself "If you can't play with distractions, you can't play".

Tiger Woods dad would say that to him as he made every attempt to distract Tiger during practice. It helps me to learn to ignore it and improve my concentration.

[Guitarman1951]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I'm having a difficult time enjoying myself on the golf course due to the behavior of people I play with. I usually sign up as a single and get paired with different people. Most of them are very nice and I'm sure that I'd have no problem with them off the course. But too many of them have no idea about golf etiquette.
I played with two guys today who just wouldn't stop talking. They had no idea where anyone's ball was and generally didn't understand the need to keep quiet, not walk on other player's lines, not let there shadows go where they can break a player's concentration.
Now I understand that a lot of people, especially those that play executive courses are out for fun, sunshine and exercise. But there are some of us that are trying to hit good shots and shoot a score.
When I play golf, my concentration begins when I start to line up my shot. I stand behind the ball pick out an aiming point and envision the shot that I'm going to hit.
Today on the first hole, these two guys are talking and I was getting ready to hit. I got over my ball and they didn't stop so I back away and gave them a look. They finally shut up but just as I'm about to take the club away the two of them walked behind me and cast their shadows over my ball. I backed away again and they didn't get it.
They did this over and over for nine holes. On one hole, the fourth member of the group was standing over a four foot putt for par and one of them starts talking in the middle of his backswing.
On another hole, one of them dropped two clubs on my ball marker and walked up my line. That not bad enough but the guy must have weighed close to 300 pounds.
If you haven't played golf before, or you're a casual golfer, I understand that these things may not be important to you, but you need to learn to be considerate of other people. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, go to the good golf school and read a bit about golf etiquette. It will make for better relationships and make golf much more pleasant for everyone.
I feel bad that I went out to have an enjoyable day and come home and have to write something like this.

I've said for years that the Villages should have a simple one hour golf etiquette course that anyone wanting to play championship courses have to attend. I've had similar experiences in the past and it's needless with just a little education and some manners.