[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

Haven't you heard? It's been proven that vaccinated asymptomatic people can still spread the virus

At a far, far reduced rate compared to symptomatic, unvaccinated people

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tklloop

Really, those 800k people who have died from covid should stop scaring the rest of us! And the CDC should stop trying to help the helpless and braindead with facts & data!! whores

From or with covid? The CDC is FINALLY differentiating between the two in order to inform the braindead...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Annie66

Maybe I'm bit off base, but since when is simply stating the data without much comment scare mongering and shameful? I don't understand your comments.

It is when one cherry picks or distorts the data...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I spent the whole day in the Villages hospital ER this week and only one person with Covid was there all day. They have a separate area for Covid patients in the ER waiting room. Just saying that there are times when I believe that the covid scare is greatly exaggerated.

Opinions are opinions, but facts are facts and over 800,000 US citizens have died from CV. And I know that some anti-vaxxers say that ONE motorcycle person died and was listed as a CV death. My opinion IS that it is like an urban legend. Because MANY expert Doctors state that CV deaths are UNDER-reported. Some die at home and are listed as "natural" causes. And there are probably other reasons for under-reporting. Early in the CV pandemic, a Florida administrator quit her job in protest of Florida's UNDER-reporting of all CV stats. That made all the news. It can likely be Googled.....if forgotten.

[Velvet]

Thank you, Gazette News. Each of us can draw whatever conclusion we want, but information is power. Ignorance leaves one to be easily manipulated.

[drducat]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Opinions are opinions, but facts are facts and over 800,000 US citizens have died from CV. And I know that some anti-vaxxers say that ONE motorcycle person died and was listed as a CV death. My opinion IS that it is like an urban legend. Because MANY expert Doctors state that CV deaths are UNDER-reported. Some die at home and are listed as "natural" causes. And there are probably other reasons for under-reporting. Early in the CV pandemic, a Florida administrator quit her job in protest of Florida's UNDER-reporting of all CV stats. That made all the news. It can likely be Googled.....if forgotten.

They have no idea how many died from Covid symptoms...never will the data is corrupt.

How many die from the flu each year...zero.....they all die from the symptoms and not the virus.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by drducat

They have no idea how many died from Covid symptoms...never will the data is corrupt.

How many die from the flu each year...zero.....they all die from the symptoms and not the virus.

Most of our knowledge is built on probabilities, and relativities. There are very few absolutes. Think quantum theory. Without these estimates we would still be in the dark ages.

[billethkid]

Remember that figures don't lie!

But liars figure!!........hence the problem!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tmbozoki@gmail.com

Shameful scare mongering by the media and sheep people easily corralled. Based on the aforementioned number 5% were hospitalized (no mention how long) and .002% death rate. Meaning you have 99.98% chance not to die! This is how media should report COVID, not just a grand total total cases with no qualifications is shameful.

People should educate themselves and stop listening to this media ratings whoring hysteria.

Dictators like Putin and Victor Orban and Hitler and Stalin from History ALL have as one of their EARLY steps to start their reign of oppression - the weakening and strangling off of legitimate patriotic, freedom-loving media reporters and TV personalities. It is a major building block of the house of the Dictator.
......Many people in the US have fallen prey to this type of misinformation - it is (likely) Russian or Chinese-originated
propaganda that gets MAGNIFIED and distributed by faux news sources and even darker misinformation channels. Does anyone REALLY believe that the incredible polarization in US society merely just HAPPENED over the recent span of say the last 6 years? NO! Russia tried the same thing in Germany and France with only limited success. They have tried it in The Ukraine for years and are now sinking their Russian Bear teeth into that country. And they are nipping at the heals of (the at least) 50% of US citizens. I don't know how to express it any clearer. The US Democracy has been Severely wounded. And those that knock the US LEGITiMATE news media are pouring SALT into those wounds. Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

[drducat]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Dictators like Putin and Victor Orban and Hitler and Stalin from History ALL have as one of their EARLY steps to start their reign of oppression - the weakening and strangling off of legitimate patriotic, freedom-loving media reporters and TV personalities. It is a major building block of the house of the Dictator.
......Many people in the US have fallen prey to this type of misinformation - it is (likely) Russian or Chinese-originated
propaganda that gets MAGNIFIED and distributed by faux news sources and even darker misinformation channels. Does anyone REALLY believe that the incredible polarization in US society merely just HAPPENED over the recent span of say the last 6 years? NO! Russia tried the same thing in Germany and France with only limited success. They have tried it in The Ukraine for years and are now sinking their Russian Bear teeth into that country. And they are nipping at the heals of (the at least) 50% of US citizens. I don't know how to express it any clearer. The US Democracy has been Severely wounded. And those that knock the US LEGITiMATE news media are pouring SALT into those wounds. Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

The US media has long ago left the room.....years ago........Project mockingbird....alive and well.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

??? Where in that article was the scare mongering and media ratings whoring?

Using the numbers in that paper the death rate was something less than 0.25% meaning you have something more than 99.75% chance not to die. BUT, that is a misuse of those numbers.

How many paragraphs should have been spent explaining that new cases *might* have gone into the hospital last week (more likely this week) but any deaths won't come for another couple of weeks? The fewer than 20 deaths weren't from the 8,057 new cases last week, those deaths were from the cases two or three weeks ago.

When the media tries to explain the data they are called fear mongering and ratings whoring. When they don't try to explain it not only are they still criticized plus people tend to misunderstand and misuse the data.

Still, these numbers appear to be relatively low and hopefully they will stay that way.

Many Doctors are now saying that the Omicron surge may ALREADY be DECREASING - or that it will begin in a few weeks with 1st cases and later hospitalizations and deaths beginning to decrease.
.....As to the media.......the legitimate ones (those around before about 1970 or you could say before RUSH ) - are NOT being alarmists. They are the factual TRUTH-tellers in a sea of misinformation and outright propaganda!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Annie66

Maybe I'm bit off base, but since when is simply stating the data without much comment scare mongering and shameful? I don't understand your comments.

The comments are designed to de-legitimize the media, which unfortunately for us (and the US) is an early step toward toppling any democracy. Check that out historically!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ex34449

Seriously, people still care about this thing? Mask up get sick, social distance get sick, mask up and social distance and still get sick. Shoot a social experiment in your arm on top of all or part of the previous and still get sick.
No one knows where this thing will be in 2 days much less 2 months or 2 years.

A negativity cake with an icing of misinformation!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

Calling other Americans sheep isn’t that like bullying with a key pad ? Should not be allowed on TOTV .
The Covid cases reported are understated as many people with Covid
never get tested . Officials report the numbers are in reality double.

Agreed. Thanks very much!

[drducat]

Since the pandemic is pretty much over....we now have something much worse which will be on shore soon and in time for fall.....Viral hemorrhagic fever...China has 75 million locked down right now and yet again are not giving details...This is like Ebola folks...very bad.