[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

I’d rather have the temperatures rise 0.5 degrees than Glioblastoma (brain cancer)
Artificial turf potentially linked to cancer deaths of six Phillies ball players – report | Cancer | The Guardian

Maybe TV should eliminate the Executive Courses and replace them with Virtual Golf, so we can all be safe from El Nino, global warming and the proposed artificial turf solution.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I said that about Astro Turf for the greens, not the whole fairways. And maybe better for par 3s. Maybe computer golf for the fairway shots and then outside to use Astro Turf-type grass greens or real grass greens. That would definitely cut down on the wheel traffic damage while playing golf. Actually there are some studies that link baseball players playing for years on Astro Turf to brain cancer. So, it seems like there would FIRST need to be found a plastic grass carpet that did NOT give off any harmful chemicals into the air.
.....I merely tried to add to the discussion things that I am familiar with like the science of the change in climate and how it could affect even such an unlikely thing as golf course conditions. But, remember that Florida is special. It is an island surrounded by HOT water. And that affects Florida climate, which affects Florida golf course grass.
.........It seems that many golfing experts have many different solutions to the change in golf course grass. Strangely one solution that was proposed (but said to NOT be possible to implement) was to keep the golf carts off the course and only allow walking. Strangely, the reduced use of GAS golf carts would have a double advantage because of less weight on the grass AND less CO2, which HOLDS in the reflected Solar HEAT.

Uh huh.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Thank you. I won't tell anyone that you agreed with me. It can stay a secret.

Sarcasm, Sheldon, sarcasm

[Two Bills]

Save a fortune in cost and maintenance.
Get rid of sand traps on all Executive courses.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Save a fortune in cost and maintenance.
Get rid of sand traps on all Executive courses.

Or convert them to "waste areas" and eliminate 90% of the maintenance.

Pine Barrens at World Woods was in Top 100 in the USA and without a single "bunker" or "sand trap" ... only "waste areas". Saved them a small fortune.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Or convert them to "waste areas" and eliminate 90% of the maintenance.

Pine Barrens at World Woods was in Top 100 in the USA and without a single "bunker" or "sand trap" ... only "waste areas". Saved them a small fortune.

Agree
Maybe not on all the courses but definitely the ‘problem’ ones

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Anything not electric is killing our planet and global warming is a disaster. I’m taking that stance because the last time I attempted to correct a moron I had to spend a month in the penalty box.

That in itself is EXTREMELY HUMOROUS because the very calling of another TOTV member a "moron" is against the rules and intent of TOTV. I doesn't bother me except that it lowers all the dialogue to the level of the 7th grade level of debate. Debate is ALWAYS good and I welcome it when my IDEAS are challenged. NOBODY welcomes a situation when they are challenged at a personal level for ZERO redeeming value !!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Maybe TV should eliminate the Executive Courses and replace them with Virtual Golf, so we can all be safe from El Nino, global warming and the proposed artificial turf solution.

Golf seems to have a DECLINING population due to the demographics of AGING baby boomers. Younger people prefer to find their own sports or amusements, which explains the RAPID rise of Pickle's ball. Probably many Pickle players are former golfers that got tired of the BORING NON-STIMULATION of the time spent going from drive to fairway shot. The Pickled crowd has CONTINUOUS action and an EASY game to learn. Also, the courts are FREE, as in costing nothing - less time cost and less money costs.
.......It is also pretty humorous to me that "mother nature" (due to warmer air holding more moisture) has decided to make the FLORIDA golf greens more DIFFICULT to maintain.
.......Personally, I think that par 3 courses better match the mentality today of young retired people, which is quick rewards for time spent. It also matches the mentality of TV Landers that have busy lives and want to get to water volleyball after a par 3 and not the time occupied by a "PAR ZILLION".
..........Also, the Florida summer HEAT means playing golf mostly in the morning. But, with indoor computer golf, players could sharpen their skills indoors -- and maybe combined with a brief putting time in the HEAT outdoors. Just thinking out loud.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That in itself is EXTREMELY HUMOROUS because the very calling of another TOTV member a "moron" is against the rules and intent of TOTV. I doesn't bother me except that it lowers all the dialogue to the level of the 7th grade level of debate. Debate is ALWAYS good and I welcome it when my IDEAS are challenged. NOBODY welcomes a situation when they are challenged at a personal level for ZERO redeeming value !!!!!!

Maybe we should just have a varsity level ToTV....for the ones that post accurate and well thought out...and supported through facts type forum......and a JV level log in for those that just want to see their name in lights and see how much of their nonsense and jibberish sticks to the fellow uninformed and gullible membership. Just a thought

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

..........Also, the Florida summer HEAT means playing golf mostly in the morning. But, with indoor computer golf, players could sharpen their skills indoors -- and maybe combined with a brief putting time in the HEAT outdoors. Just thinking out loud.

Within 10-15 years, more golf will be played indoors, than outdoors. It's taking over the golf world. Those who can't see it, are mired in the past. Today's generation wants virtual stimulation, in a manufactured environment, with minimal exertion or effort.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Debate is ALWAYS good and I welcome it when my IDEAS are challenged. NOBODY welcomes a situation when they are challenged at a personal level for ZERO redeeming value !!!!!!

I can't imagine why anyone would ever challenge your ideas or view of the world? I will concede, on the very rare occasion I've seen it occur on TOTV, you're always a gentleman about it.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Golf seems to have a DECLINING population due to the demographics of AGING baby boomers. Younger people prefer to find their own sports or amusements, which explains the RAPID rise of Pickle's ball. Probably many Pickle players are former golfers that got tired of the BORING NON-STIMULATION of the time spent going from drive to fairway shot. The Pickled crowd has CONTINUOUS action and an EASY game to learn. Also, the courts are FREE, as in costing nothing - less time cost and less money costs.

Except it's not true...

"Despite predictions of golf's downfall due to the pandemic, the sport has actually managed to stay on course. Literally, on course. In early January 2023, the National Golf Foundation (NGF) revealed that the number of on-course golfers was up again by 500.000 players, bringing the total to 25.6 million."

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Maybe we should just have a varsity level ToTV....for the ones that post accurate and well thought out...and supported through facts type forum......and a JV level log in for those that just want to see their name in lights and see how much of their nonsense and jibberish sticks to the fellow uninformed and gullible membership. Just a thought

Championship Level & Executive course levels?

[UpNorth]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Save a fortune in cost and maintenance.
Get rid of sand traps on all Executive courses.

Grass bunkers would be just fine. Ever try to chip out of one? Not easy. Unfortunately, The Villages seems to have trouble growing grass these days.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Maybe we should just have a varsity level ToTV....for the ones that post accurate and well thought out...and supported through facts type forum......and a JV level log in for those that just want to see their name in lights and see how much of their nonsense and jibberish sticks to the fellow uninformed and gullible membership. Just a thought

It seems like the idea here is that the "Varsity level" section of the forum would reward the ideas expressed by a majority of the members of the forum. Then the LESS typical and more unique ideas would be expressed in the "JV" forum level. To site an example that admittedly is STRETCHED to prove a point.......imagine Christopher Columbus being in the "JV" section and screaming, NO, NO the world is NOT flat like you "Varsity level" people want it to be.
.....America would have been discovered 100 years after Columbus died and the Native Americans had grown so strong by then that they were able to resist the European invasion. They would then control the history of North America.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Championship Level & Executive course levels?

Maintained.....and less maintained
Perfect analogy