[ithos]

There were several thousands of affidavits filed under penalty of perjury that described voter fraud of some sort in the several swing states that shut down the count almost simultaneously on election night.

So there definitely was a conspiracy.

Either one side colluded to get thousands of citizens to lie and risk jail time

or the other side perpetuated voter fraud on a massive scale.

Either way people should have gone to jail.
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[Andyb]

How unfortunate, but apparently minor compared to the wide spread fraud across the country. I mean, what could go wrong with drop boxes?

Is this Talk of the Villages censored? Can this site monitor and remove our freedom of speech if someone else gets their panties in a bunch? Hmmm…curious what others have to say.

[A-2-56]

Too bad that I cannot comment here. I was told that I cannot make political comments here.
It seems to me that the very nature of the initial statements were political.
Voting in and of itself is politics to the Nth degree.
My lips are sealed and my key ticklers are frozen.

[Heytubes]

People who are negative commenting on The Sun must not take it as there was an article about this.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by ithos

If every county in the USA had the integrity and did the same due diligence of Sumter County then there would be no controversy.

These people were caught because of election rules in place that allowed a thorough and accurate audit to be done after the fact.

Every fraudulent vote deprives a citizen of their vote. That is why corrupt politicians have changed or ignored laws to make voter fraud much easier. Without strong election verification there is no fair election. In Europe most countries are same day in person voting and ALL have a paper trail. Every vote should have a paper trail even when machines are used.

Voting in France: Paper ballots, in person, hand-counted
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fb4_story.html

Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts
The Detroit News

...and then they fixed the software errors, and it turned out the "too many votes" was 100% categorically entirely not true, at all, in any way shape or form. Turned out a few different things happened:

1. There were software errors, which were fixed.
2. Someone plugged in the wrong number into the wrong field in the database and came up with fewer people in the county than there actually were.

End result: the above was "social media" conspiracy rhetoric based on ERRORs, that were intentionally spread to create anger against the lawful winners of the elections in the state.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by ithos

There were several thousands of affidavits filed under penalty of perjury that described voter fraud of some sort in the several swing states that shut down the count almost simultaneously on election night.

So there definitely was a conspiracy.

Either one side colluded to get thousands of citizens to lie and risk jail time

or the other side perpetuated voter fraud on a massive scale.

Either way people should have gone to jail.
.

Those several thousand affidavits were thrown out of court every time it was submitted. Rudy even stated when he went to court that they were NOT claiming any fraud.

Sigh, this has been debated for over a year now, and it comes down to, every judge in the country is in on the conspiracy, every elected official in the country is in on the conspiracy, well you get the idea. The ONLY possible way it happened is if the stupidest party on the face of the heart (DEMs) manage to pull off 20 million (Trump's words) illegal or fraudulent votes, and did not leave a trace of evidence that was admissible in court.

I am sorry you still believe it. Even Trump's own people that he tasked with finding the fraud said, "there was no fraud", his own DHS said, "there was no fraud", and his own Attorney General said, "there was no fraud". And on and on.

Occam's razor The entire country lied and Trump is telling the truth, or Trump is a narcissist and can't admit he lost. Hmmm.

However, numerous indictments are about to come down against people pushing the lie. Hang onto your hats, this is going to get turbulent.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by FLBeans

Is this Talk of the Villages censored? Can this site monitor and remove our freedom of speech if someone else gets their panties in a bunch? Hmmm…curious what others have to say.

Seriously, how many thousands of times do it have to be said, you have NO freedom of speech when it comes to private companies.

The Freedom of Speech in the Constitution specifically says it applies to the GOVERNMENT.

If you want to use a company's service, you agree to its rules, PERIOD. Don't like it then take your business elsewhere - that is called capitalism.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by ithos

There were several thousands of affidavits filed under penalty of perjury that described voter fraud of some sort in the several swing states that shut down the count almost simultaneously on election night.

So there definitely was a conspiracy.

Either one side colluded to get thousands of citizens to lie and risk jail time

or the other side perpetuated voter fraud on a massive scale.

Either way people should have gone to jail.
.

And people are going to jail, DOJ is sending people to trial every day, 700 of them are indicted, and more are being indicted and investigated every day. It is truly sad that it has taken 1 1/2 years, but it is finally happening. Things are coming out like Don'Jr's text showing he was working on lying about fraud before the election was even called.

The people claiming the government (DEMS) were responsible for a massive (20 million votes) are the same people that come on here and talk about how the government (DEMs) can't do anything right - hmmm...

[rogerk]

It was covered in The Daily Sun this week with the details

Originally Posted by debem1@aol.com

What happened to TRUTH, JUSTICE and THE AMERICAN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only if you’re NOT offending a certain group with your freedom of speech? Religion, race, political views, sexual orientation, criminal background, billionaire, tax views, laws, ILLEGAL in the US, etc. Let’s hope we don’t have to call on Elon Musk to protect our Freedom. Lol Twitter has been a raw topic right now for just this thing. Only a select group are allowed freedom. We the people are F fed up!!!
I totally get NO hate crimes.
However, others can hit, yell, steal, violate, just don’t TELL them that they are doing it and get panties in a bunch. Lol Let’s see if this post gets taken down or if I have to call Elon. Just sayin. Lol

[rsmurano]

I can’t believe most people dismiss this. Sure, only a couple votes. Say 60,000 people did this? Say a few million did this across the country? That’s like saying he only shot 1 person.
If it’s a law and it’s broken, especially our elections, then fine them, jail time, whatever is appropriate that’s on the books. This generation has gone soft and look at us: everybody gets a trophy, no tests in school, kids can turn in their parents if they lay a hand on them.

[valuemkt]

You don;t need to have two residences. in my 20 years in Atlanta, the "Vote early, Vote often" mantra was more than a chuckle. Early voters in some districts were treated to free food and drinks as they waited in line to cast their "only" ballots.

[LianneMigiano]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

This is not large scale voter fraud. They voted here and back home.

As did how many other similar cheaters throughout the country - that just DIDN'T get caught yet!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

It is 100% of the cases involving old white men vs black women punishment. 4 cases, 4 sentences.

So, you are bored that a BLACK WOMEN got sentenced to 5 years in prison for trying to vote, while a WHITE MAN who actually voted illegally got community service and a course in civics.

No prejudice in this country, it is just something the left makes up.

You may be seeing "prejudice" where there is none. Two different states, and two different judges. What would you say if a "white man" got more time than a "black woman"....oh well, he deserved it and she didn't? Why make it a racial issue, when you do not know the details OR the motive/intent? Every state has had at least one detected voter that made multiple votes or voter fraud of some sort during an election. How it is handled is probably different in each of those states.