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I have the Priority Membership for myself and my wife is the reaon it is ~$1000. I very rarely play the Executive Courses. My wife plays them when her knee allows. I play 3 times a week on the Championship Courses once on Friday morning with a group of neighbors and the other two times in the afternoon with 3 other resident/friends. The Priority is definetly worth it especially in the winter months with the higher rates and the difficulty in getting T times on specific courses. Cane to me has been unplayable ever since overseeding. The courses outside The Villages base their green fee rates on what a Priority Member would pay inside The Villages; at least that is what I have been told by those people running those courses
Since you play often enough, it is worth it for you. If you decide to renew, maybe it might be better or maybe I should say, more cost effective to not renew your wife's membership since she plays much less often than you.

Hubby used to have a solo membership, then we got dual and discovered that I just didn't play enough to warrant the expense. This year, we've been pretty busy with other things so he didn't renew his priority membership. Next year he'll renew, but I won't.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:06 PM
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Since you play often enough, it is worth it for you. If you decide to renew, maybe it might be better or maybe I should say, more cost effective to not renew your wife's membership since she plays much less often than you.

Hubby used to have a solo membership, then we got dual and discovered that I just didn't play enough to warrant the expense. This year, we've been pretty busy with other things so he didn't renew his priority membership. Next year he'll renew, but I won't.
Her main use of the Priority is the use of the Championship Club pools such as Palmer and Lopez. Thought about only a 6 month membership for the winter months when rates are the highest but it is 3/4 the cost of a a full year. If it was closer to 1/2 that would be the way I would go.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:09 PM
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Her main use of the Priority is the use of the Championship Club pools such as Palmer and Lopez. Thought about only a 6 month membership for the winter months when rates are the highest but it is 3/4 the cost of a a full year. If it was closer to 1/2 that would be the way I would go.
Forgot about the pools, schotzyb, those are important to many.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:13 PM
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Well we both know they are not going to quit building houses so I guess all one can do is grin and bear it . Not me, I refuse to pay another ~$1000 for a Priority Membership to play on courses in these courses conditions. I will take my chances with outside courses .
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Waste of water that could be used on the golf courses!
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It could be that one course has more storage than another. I'm not sure how much "storage" Havana has vs Mallory.

It still boils down to just how much water there is available and without much rain, retention ponds are low.
I agree with you regarding storage and retention ponds, but back to your original comment regarding allocations, your point is certainly valid, but having played both Havana and Mallory a lot, I don't see where one has more storage than the other, hence it seems like they would have the same allocation amount. That's what I mean when I say "makes no sense" (to me anyways). I just have a feeling there is more happening than we see, regarding how the available water is dispersed to the various courses. My spouse spoke to Todd Basso, head of golf course operations, and he said Palmer has the same allocation as the other courses. I find this really hard to believe. I used to see them watering Palmer all the time, and as mentioned, Mallory very little.

I would love to hear from Mr. Basso, all the nitty gritty details on allocations. Are they monthly, yearly allocation amounts? What are the exact amounts for each course? If Palmer gets the same amount of water as Cane or Mallory for example, why is Palmer so green and in such nice shape while Cane and Mallory are not? If I get some free time I may give him a call to help clear up some of these inconsistencies.
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I agree with you regarding storage and retention ponds, but back to your original comment regarding allocations, your point is certainly valid, but having played both Havana and Mallory a lot, I don't see where one has more storage than the other, hence it seems like they would have the same allocation amount. That's what I mean when I say "makes no sense" (to me anyways). I just have a feeling there is more happening than we see, regarding how the available water is dispersed to the various courses. My spouse spoke to Todd Basso, head of golf course operations, and he said Palmer has the same allocation as the other courses. I find this really hard to believe. I used to see them watering Palmer all the time, and as mentioned, Mallory very little.



I would love to hear from Mr. Basso, all the nitty gritty details on allocations. Are they monthly, yearly allocation amounts? What are the exact amounts for each course? If Palmer gets the same amount of water as Cane or Mallory for example, why is Palmer so green and in such nice shape while Cane and Mallory are not? If I get some free time I may give him a call to help clear up some of these inconsistencies.
Taj and all - a question for you...

I seem to recall hearing that the management company for Havana is different than for all the other courses. Can anyone confirm - and would that make a difference in the water allocation or just the care of the course?

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I agree with you regarding storage and retention ponds, but back to your original comment regarding allocations, your point is certainly valid, but having played both Havana and Mallory a lot, I don't see where one has more storage than the other, hence it seems like they would have the same allocation amount. That's what I mean when I say "makes no sense" (to me anyways). I just have a feeling there is more happening than we see, regarding how the available water is dispersed to the various courses. My spouse spoke to Todd Basso, head of golf course operations, and he said Palmer has the same allocation as the other courses. I find this really hard to believe. I used to see them watering Palmer all the time, and as mentioned, Mallory very little.

I would love to hear from Mr. Basso, all the nitty gritty details on allocations. Are they monthly, yearly allocation amounts? What are the exact amounts for each course? If Palmer gets the same amount of water as Cane or Mallory for example, why is Palmer so green and in such nice shape while Cane and Mallory are not? If I get some free time I may give him a call to help clear up some of these inconsistencies.
When you get some free time, I know we'd all appreciate you calling to get answers. Thanks so much.
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Waste of water that could be used on the golf courses!
You're so bad.....
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When you get some free time, I know we'd all appreciate you calling to get answers. Thanks so much.
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Thanks....I'm heading out of country The Villages Floridaand have lots to do. I'll leave it in the capable hands or should I say finger, of Taj.
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Taj and all - a question for you...

I seem to recall hearing that the management company for Havana is different than for all the other courses. Can anyone confirm - and would that make a difference in the water allocation or just the care of the course?

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The management company is the same for all the courses. What varies is the company contracted to perform the maintenance on the courses. Someone posted earlier that there was a problem with one company about a year ago and they were not renewed when their contract expired.
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I agree with you regarding storage and retention ponds, but back to your original comment regarding allocations, your point is certainly valid, but having played both Havana and Mallory a lot, I don't see where one has more storage than the other, hence it seems like they would have the same allocation amount. That's what I mean when I say "makes no sense" (to me anyways). I just have a feeling there is more happening than we see, regarding how the available water is dispersed to the various courses. My spouse spoke to Todd Basso, head of golf course operations, and he said Palmer has the same allocation as the other courses. I find this really hard to believe. I used to see them watering Palmer all the time, and as mentioned, Mallory very little.

I would love to hear from Mr. Basso, all the nitty gritty details on allocations. Are they monthly, yearly allocation amounts? What are the exact amounts for each course? If Palmer gets the same amount of water as Cane or Mallory for example, why is Palmer so green and in such nice shape while Cane and Mallory are not? If I get some free time I may give him a call to help clear up some of these inconsistencies.
Are you saying he lied to your spouse?
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Are you saying he lied to your spouse?
No, I'm thinking either he mis-spoke, or my spouse mis-understood. Or maybe the courses do get the same amount of water, but Palmer has better sub-base conditions so it is able to retain the water better. Perhaps it was built better with better and more topsoil with water retaining abilities, while Mallory may be been built with little top soil and lots of sand, which won't retain water as well.
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Taj and all - a question for you...

I seem to recall hearing that the management company for Havana is different than for all the other courses. Can anyone confirm - and would that make a difference in the water allocation or just the care of the course?

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I don't know what company is in charge of Havana. I can't imagine that would impact the amount of water they are allocated, but don't know for sure. I thought I read somewhere that water allocation was based on golf course size i.e. acreage.
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