[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

We always listen for glass breaking, fortunately that has never happened. If it did that would mean a stop by the house to take care of the damage. As far as retrieving the ball, a ball hit that far out of bounds is a gonner!

Wow Bogie - that is an interesting point - a ball breaking glass. Don't think I have enough swing to ever make that happen, but if I did I am not sure I would feel responsible for the damage. Sounds awful, but I feel that is a risk you take living on the course - been there, done that (living on the course).

Oh brother, I'm taking cover as I type this.

[Sanibel7]

Folks, I knew that when I bought my home on the Golf course that I would have balls flying in the yard.. hitting the house etc..I expect that.. What I did not expect is the lack of courtesy of the folks hitting off the tee to warn others of a bad shot... I've been playing this game for 40+ years and still play to a 2 handicap and Yes I do hit the ball wayward sometimes.. But when I do I always yell FORE.. Even if it does not seem that anyone is in danger.. If you do not see where it went Yell to be on the safe side.. Please!!!

[Sanibel7]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Wow Bogie - that is an interesting point - a ball breaking glass. Don't think I have enough swing to ever make that happen, but if I did I am not sure I would feel responsible for the damage. Sounds awful, but I feel that is a risk you take living on the course - been there, done that (living on the course).

Oh brother, I'm taking cover as I type this.

Just to clear this up.. In the state of Florida you Are responsible for where your golf ball goes and the damage that it does.. Please read your good golf guide provided by the Villages.. Scenerio: if you hit into the group in front of you on the course and you hurt someone you as the person who hit the ball are liable.. So what is the difference if you hit a homeowner in the backyard? you are still liable for the shot! listen when I was hit this morning I was more peeved that the person who did it did not even come over to ask how i was!
I was more than tempted to fire the golf ball back at them ( and I am probably alot more accurate than They were.. HA Ha) but what would that have solved but to get me in trouble.
The whole purpose of this thread though is not to ask who is right or wrong but to get our Villagers to yell when they hit a ball off line

[gomoho]

Fair enough!

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by mikeod

Nowhere on the deed does it say that living on a golf course permits trespassing on private property.

If I can reach a ball with a club or ball retriever without setting foot on private property or damaging landscaping, I will get the ball. Otherwise, buh-bye. I've got some more in my bag.

I did not read anywhere,by the OP about trespassing on private property. Not sure about your deed comment.

[jimmy D]

Love your story, but the courts have already ruled that you live in a Dangerous place and knew about forehand. The golfer here cannot see far enough to see where the ball landed. Smile and forgive, it might be me

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Sanibel7

Just to clear this up.. In the state of Florida you Are responsible for where your golf ball goes and the damage that it does.. Please read your good golf guide provided by the Villages.. Scenerio: if you hit into the group in front of you on the course and you hurt someone you as the person who hit the ball are liable.. So what is the difference if you hit a homeowner in the backyard? you are still liable for the shot! listen when I was hit this morning I was more peeved that the person who did it did not even come over to ask how i was!
I was more than tempted to fire the golf ball back at them ( and I am probably alot more accurate than They were.. HA Ha) but what would that have solved but to get me in trouble.
The whole purpose of this thread though is not to ask who is right or wrong but to get our Villagers to yell when they hit a ball off line

I am sorry that you are in the line of fire and that people don't yell "fore", however, just to clear this up....Who pays for golf ball damage to a condo? - Sun Sentinel
Legal experts say being in the line of fire comes with the territory when you buy into a condo or homeowners community that borders a golf course.

"The golf courses were not built overnight," said Donna Berger, of Katzman, Garfinkel and Berger, one of the largest community association law firms in the state. "I live on a golf course, too, and have had to deal with damages. But as the law sees it, owners assume the risk when they move in." She said it is similar when home buyers purchase a home near an airport. It is difficult for them to file a lawsuit based on airplane noise.

She said Florida and other states have routinely upheld that principle, adding that an owner may have grounds for a lawsuit when the golfing-related damage rises to the level of a general nuisance, such as a home or unit being struck on a regular basis."

and this http://www.smglawfirm.com/article_de...p?detail_id=33

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Sanibel7

Just to clear this up.. In the state of Florida you Are responsible for where your golf ball goes and the damage that it does.. Please read your good golf guide provided by the Villages.. Scenerio: if you hit into the group in front of you on the course and you hurt someone you as the person who hit the ball are liable.. So what is the difference if you hit a homeowner in the backyard? you are still liable for the shot! listen when I was hit this morning I was more peeved that the person who did it did not even come over to ask how i was!
I was more than tempted to fire the golf ball back at them ( and I am probably alot more accurate than They were.. HA Ha) but what would that have solved but to get me in trouble.
The whole purpose of this thread though is not to ask who is right or wrong but to get our Villagers to yell when they hit a ball off line

Your goal is a good one, however I think you have a better chance of winning PowerBall. I don't want to seem unsympathetic, I truly do sympathize, however this is one of many examples of a lack of courtesy exhibited "in the bubble". It seems that some people have a feeling of entitlement when living in/visiting the Villages, and their behavior is...and I will be polite......disappointing. I certainly hope you feel better and don't be shy about ranting! There is nothing wrong with expecting (sigh, I guess I will change that to "hoping for") courtesy from those around you.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

I did not read anywhere,by the OP about trespassing on private property. Not sure about your deed comment.

Your prior post quoted another post that referred to "traipsing" on private property and indicated that's what comes with living on a golf course. My response was that living on a golf course doesn't give up the right to control access onto your land. The deed comment was facetious.

[shcisamax]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Thats also the price you pay for living on the fringe of a golf course.

I was wondering how long it would take and who would make an irrelevant comment about it being the price you pay for living on the golf course.

The thread is about people having the smarts and consideration to yell fore or something when the shot goes awry.

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by shcisamax

I was wondering how long it would take and who would make an irrelevant comment about it being the price you pay for living on the golf course.

The thread is about people having the smarts and consideration to yell fore or something when the shot goes awry.

I do not think its "Irrelevant" at all. Its the truth. Yelling fore is your answer,maybe the people living next door to you do not want to hear "fore" all day long. Did you think of them. Like moving next to a airport and now complain about the noise.

[shcisamax]

What an irrelevant but not unexpected response. To follow through on that line of "reasoning", if a golf cart was veering off the path and about to hit someone, there would be no reason to honk the horn or yell a word of warning because that would be disturbing to others in the vicinity and ...gee oh well...it's a golfing community and accidents happen.
The truth is: It is the widely accepted action to let people know they are in the way of danger. Kind of a given.

[gomoho]

I think it is called "common courtesy" - remember that?

[Moderator]

Time to get back on topic and quit sniping.

[blueash]

Not a lawyer but there is available information of the golfer's obligation, the homeowner's assumption of risk, and the golf course owner's potential liability. A great read is at http://www.willamette.edu/wucl/pdf/s.../scoffield.pdf which even covers the situations of hitting a car on a road or a caddy. It comes down to that the golfer is obligated to yell "fore" if he is aware that his shot is travelling toward another person who is possibly able to benefit from the warning. There is no obligation to yell if there is no one expected where the shot is travelling. Most interesting case where the course was held liable is this:
"Thegolf course had changed the location of the green, shortening the yardage of the hole from 315 yards to 232 yards, but had failed to change the yardage indicated on the scorecard. Two years after the green location was changed, a golfer teed off while the plaintiff was standing on the green. The golfer had never played the course before and consulted the scorecard to determine the distance to the green. The golfer saw the plaintiff standing on the green, but knowing that he could not drive the ball over 300 yards decided to tee off. His shot traveled to the green, hitting and injuring the plaintiff. The court held there was sufficient evidence to sustain the jury’s determination that the golf course was negligent in failing to change the yardage on the scorecard and hence, the course owners were liable for the plaintiff’s injuries."

Wouldn't you think a golfer can tell the difference between something 230 vs 315 yards away? Especially one who can hit a ball 230 yards straight to the green.

Nonetheless, yelling "fore" is legally required not just a courtesy in situations where the golfer knows or should know that his shot puts others at risk and a warning could be of benefit. In the OP's situation where he is hidden from view I IMO don't think a warning is required, but would be a courtesy. I do wonder what the OP would have done differently if while gardening he heard a distant "fore". I'd hate for him to have to wear a bike helmet and shatterproof goggles.