[OnTrack]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I think it is called "common courtesy" - remember that?

That says it all.


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[ajbrown]

I find myself in the category of folks who do not yell fore if I see no one endangered in the direction of my shot. Contrary to popular belief portrayed in this thread, I do not do this because I am rude, entitled, etc.

That said, I am positive I would stop by once I knew you were there and ask if you were OK and explain I had no idea you were there.

I will try to do better in the future, although I will feel funny at first yelling fore at no one, but I understand your point re: better safe than sorry.

I do feel bad for your situation and I do not think folks yelling fore would make me personally any more comfy. I am curious what will you do when you hear fore? I guess you do what any of us do when we hear that... hold our breath and cover what we can.... Likely it would not have changed the outcome this time, but I am not sure?

If I was living in a spot where balls were flying in my yard, I do not know if I would ever be outside for fear of being seriously injured, i.e., an eye or temple, etc.

I wish you luck finding a safe way to enjoy your space and I will start yelling at houses

[OnTrack]

I believe it is very difficult, in that split second of a wayward shot headed for yards/houses....to determine if anyone is around.

Therefore, a warning is appropriate.

In addition, it is best to yell.. "Fore right/left" (as applicable).

That way a person in their yard will immediately know, if they should duck and cover.

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[gustavo]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

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If I was living in a spot where balls were flying in my yard, I do not know if I would ever be outside for fear of being seriously injured, i.e., an eye or temple, etc.

I wish you luck finding a safe way to enjoy your space and I will start yelling at houses

If your yard is in a position to be pummeled, you should not "hope" someone will yell fore to avoid injury. Doing that enables you to be a victim. You should be aware of who is on the course and when shots are being fired. Take appropriate action based on what you see.

I never forget when I worked in a steel mill as a teenager I would never walk down along side the 80 inch rolling mill line until the leading edge of the coil was fully engaged in the coiler after going through the 5 stand finishing rollers a quarter mile down the line. That glowing red piece of steel was moving at over 50 mph and if it hit a bump on the line it turned into hot, pink ribbon candy and piled up right where everyone walked. Instant death if you were anywhere near it. Although I never did the walk without my observation and rule, some did, a few got killed. Take care of yourself, no one has your best interests at heart more than you do.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by blueash

I am sorry that you are in the line of fire and that people don't yell "fore", however, just to clear this up....Who pays for golf ball damage to a condo? - Sun Sentinel
Legal experts say being in the line of fire comes with the territory when you buy into a condo or homeowners community that borders a golf course.

"The golf courses were not built overnight," said Donna Berger, of Katzman, Garfinkel and Berger, one of the largest community association law firms in the state. "I live on a golf course, too, and have had to deal with damages. But as the law sees it, owners assume the risk when they move in." She said it is similar when home buyers purchase a home near an airport. It is difficult for them to file a lawsuit based on airplane noise.

She said Florida and other states have routinely upheld that principle, adding that an owner may have grounds for a lawsuit when the golfing-related damage rises to the level of a general nuisance, such as a home or unit being struck on a regular basis."

and this If you live around a golf course, you assume the risk of being hit with golf balls

Granted it's a different state, but I worked at a golf course in Massachusetts that was forced to reconfigure one of it's holes after a class action lawsuit was brought.
The course was built in the early 1900s. A developer bought a large tract of land adjacent to the course in the 1960s and built a number of houses and streets etc.
The third hole which was a short par four was along the boundary of the course and the development. The course put up a tall fence in order to prevent balls from going into the yards which were right over the fence. It didn't help because balls were going over the fence and some were reaching houses on the other side of the street from the houses that abutted the course.
The residents got together and sued the golf course which was owned by the town. The court found that although the golf course was there first and the people should have known the risks associated with living next to a golf course, the lives and safety of the general public took precedence over the profits of the golf course.
The golf course converted the short par four into a par three which really detracted from the course as the next hole was also a par three.

By the way, I'm not saying that it's right or wrong, and I always yelled "Fore" because I thought it was the considerate thing to do, but I've seen people who upon hearing "fore" turn to look to see from where the ball was coming and catch it with their face. I've also seen people, upon hearing "fore" run right into the path of a ball. I really think that hearing "fore" only helps if you have some place to run under cover.
All in all I think that yelling "fore" is the right thing to do because if your ball hits someone, at least you can say you warned them. They might also feel better knowing that they were going to get hit as opposed to being totally surprised.

[Gerald]

I also live on a golf course. 95% of the golfers know that the ball went onto private property. They break windows hit people etc.. many just walk on to peoples property to pick up balls 10 to 30 yards into the property. Simple put there are golfers out there that do not care about anyone or anything other then their golf ball. Yes I know if you buy on a golf course a ball will go on to your property. However the attitude of many golfers is pitiful. Many owners have put up signs no trespassing etc. I have seen golfers look around laugh at the signs then walk over and hit them with their club. If you complain to the golf course then admit they really can't do anything about it. So I looked up florida law about private property. I was surprised to read that a person coming on to your property carrying carrying a club could be shoot by the owner in self defense. Especially with sign posted and being told not to enter. Sooner or later it is going to happen.

[keithwand]

A friends wife (at least this is what he told our group) was playing with her girlfriend and hit a ball into someone's yard.
When she went to get it the guy came out and claimed the ball now belonged to him.
Her girlfriend threw in a second ball and the guy says "what's that all about"?
She replied "every prick I've ever known had 2 balls"! They walked away and continued on.

[Lark7]

Originally Posted by keithwand

A friends wife (at least this is what he told our group) was playing with her girlfriend and hit a ball into someone's yard.
When she went to get it the guy came out and claimed the ball now belonged to him.
Her girlfriend threw in a second ball and the guy says "what's that all about"?
She replied "every prick I've ever known had 2 balls"! They walked away and continued on.

[johnboy]

Sorry for your injury and glad your OK. You have to ask yourself though, if someone did yell fore, you may have moved a slight bit and been hit in the head or face.

[OnTrack]

Originally Posted by keithwand

A friends wife (at least this is what he told our group) was playing with her girlfriend and hit a ball into someone's yard.
When she went to get it the guy came out and claimed the ball now belonged to him.
Her girlfriend threw in a second ball and the guy says "what's that all about"?
She replied "every prick I've ever known had 2 balls"! They walked away and continued on.

She had no business trespassing, just to get her golf ball.

I would have probably thrown both of them back to her, with a..."here, go stay on the practice facilities until you learn how to play better...and can comprehend golf etiquette and common courtesy."

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[shcisamax]

Most sports have words of warning they say out of sport etiquette and habit so other people don't get hurt. For equestrians, it is heads up left or right so horses don't collide or spook, sailors tacking port or starboard to avoid the boom in your head, tennis, "I've got it" to avoid crashes between partners, etc. In fact, on the golf course, if one of the players isn't paying attention to someone behind him/her hitting, someone will smartly warn them "heads up" so they don't get smacked from behind. Why would anyone feel it is such a burden to yell fore if the ball is way off course and going towards a person on private property? It really shouldn't be a big deal. It is an attempt at being helpful and giving warning to those in possible danger whether it accomplishes saving someone from being hit or not.

[paulandjean]

Heres my take on this subject. You bought that house on the golf course. Its not up to you to change peoples golf habits. I would never never own on a golf course lot. Real Estate agent friend told me a few years back here.Selling a new golf course home is so easy. however selling a used golf course house is the hardest. Guess why?

[skyc6]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Thats also the price you pay for living on the fringe of a golf course.

I think you may have missed the point here. The OP was talking about golf etiquette. Clearly, not your area of expertise.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by keithwand

A friends wife (at least this is what he told our group) was playing with her girlfriend and hit a ball into someone's yard.
When she went to get it the guy came out and claimed the ball now belonged to him.
Her girlfriend threw in a second ball and the guy says "what's that all about"?
She replied "every prick I've ever known had 2 balls"! They walked away and continued on.

I assume the husband was telling the story to a group of guys because he thought the two women golfers had made a clever response. Since she was trespassing on private property ... oh never mind ... it's Sunday morning.

[OnTrack]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I assume the husband was telling the story to a group of guys because he thought the two women golfers had made a clever response. Since she was trespassing on private property ... oh never mind ... it's Sunday morning.

Yep.


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