[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

How about this for a scenario? Let's say someone finds the sweet spot on the driver on a short par four starting hole. The ball takes a beautiful drawing path, lands just short of the green and rolls onto the putting surface and into the cup. It is then pointed out to the happy golfer after he has finished leaping and shouting, that he has 15 clubs in the bag and has incurred a two-stroke penalty.

Actually, it's a four stroke penalty. The penalty is two strokes for each hole where the player was carrying too many club with a maximum of four strokes.


Unless they were playing match play in which case it is a penalty of one hole.

Here's a good bar bet question. What is the worst score you can lose by in match play? The answer is 10 and 9.

[Guitarman1951]

Originally Posted by justjim

I see all the hole- in- one’s listed in The Daily Sun the past few weeks and wonder seriously you count those under current conditions when they hit the pvc pipe that covers the golf hole. Well, if that makes you feel good, but to me that is not a legitimate hole in one and does not deserve a certificate as such. Personally I’ve seen golf balls hit the hole and bounce a couple feet away. We also found a ball in the hole when we didn’t actually see it roll in because of the hole location to the tee box. Yes, there definitely is some luck involved but as the old saying goes “the harder you work the luckier you get”. Just saying...

Is this all you got to complain about. Geez, it's just a game and doesn't have any affect on anyone else. Who cares if it would have gone in or not!?!? Lighten up and worry about something that really means something.

[maggie1]

Originally Posted by jeffy

Really in these times , this is what angers you ??? How does it hurt you that some get some happiness from a hole in one?

I don't see any anger in his posting, I believe he is just being realistic about the issue. I've seen some golfers hit the PVC pipe with such force, that the golfball lands more than "gimmie" distance away, and yet they consider it as having holed out. I don't say anything, because they can let their conscience be their guide. A HOI is a combination of luck and skill, neither of which applies in that scenario. Now, if the ball pops up and lands in the hole, then that's countable.

[maggie1]

Originally Posted by Curtisbwp

I dont consider ANY hole in one a major accomplishment

Said by the person who has never had one!

[NotFromAroundHere]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Comments from ToTV about golf scoring will teach you how to LIVE YOUR LIFE??

Sure. Like I said before - extrapolation.

I notice you didn't answer the question. If I hit the pipe - regardless of how many strokes it took me to get there - what's my score?

[len84pa]

In light of our world situation, it's nice to see some of us can take our minds off of the "stress" caused by isolation.

Whether it is on a Championship Course or Executive Course the ball needs to go INTO the hole to count as a hole in one. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Maybe next year they will have electronic PVC rings that will light a light or ring a bell if hit with the golf ball.

[Dilligas]

It depends on you golf outlook. The PVC sleeves are COVID-19 safe, but not traditional golf. If you are a seasoned player with an index, it has created a stroke less on your index, so instead of a hole in one, you have an eagle. If you are a executive golf nut, play for exercise & fun, and think many of the rules are stupid, the hole in one is merely a stroke of luck....so enjoy it. It is all in the perspective.

[Twiganne]

Yes but ponder this. Is it really a birdie or an eagle if you putt and hit the cup. The hole in one’s, though I would not count it personally, is no different than claiming a putt for birdie. I have noticed a lot of guys putting on a straight line driving it to hit the cup. Would that putt not rolled over the hole if the golfer hit it that hard at the cup. I seriously doubt it. Not only would it roll over the hole but probably 15 feet away that leaves them at least one more putt or perhaps two or three. Most of the time yes. I think all golf scores have improved for everyone. Until I am being paid on tour I am just playing for fun.

[Dilligas]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Actually, it's a four stroke penalty. The penalty is two strokes for each hole where the player was carrying too many club with a maximum of four strokes.


Unless they were playing match play in which case it is a penalty of one hole.

Here's a good bar bet question. What is the worst score you can lose by in match play? The answer is 10 and 9.

Mr Boogie.....his example he detailed said "short par four starting hole", so it would only be a 2 stroke penalty for 15 clubs. Secondly, your Match play best score does not make sense....after winning the first 9 holes, the match would be 9 and 9 (9 won with 9 to play....stimied), after winning the 10th hole, the match is over 10 and 8 as there would only be 8 more holes to play. Maybe too many 18th hole beers for that bar question?

[Polar Bear]

Gotta say this once just to get it off my chest...heheh...

I'm so glad we can play golf during this mess. And it's still fun to play and and enjoy and celebrate the birdies, eagles, holes-in-ones, the whole deal. But are scores...and accomplishments such as hole-in-ones...comparable to those achieved under official golf conditions and rules? Sorry, not even close.

But that shouldn't get in the way of the fun.

[NotFromAroundHere]

Originally Posted by len84pa

Whether it is on a Championship Course or Executive Course the ball needs to go INTO the hole to count as a hole in one. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Where did that enlightenment come from?

[Rapscallion St Croix]

What the USGA says

MODIFICATIONS TO THE HOLE; NOT REQUIRING THAT PLAYERS HOLE OUT

A number of questions have been received that relate to modifying the hole so that players no longer need to reach into the hole to remove a ball to minimize the possibility of exposing golfers to coronavirus.

These have included some courses setting holes so that the hole liner remains an inch or two above the surface of the green while others have placed various objects into the hole or around the flagstick (such as foam pool noodles or plastic piping) so that a ball is unable to fall to the bottom.

While in all of these instances, the ball is not holed per the Rules of Golf (Rule 3.3c), a round played under these conditions will result in an acceptable score for handicap purposes using the most likely score guidelines (see Rule 3.3 of the Rules of Handicapping).

While the most likely score procedure is intended to support certain formats of play where the player is not required to hole out (such as in match play when the player’s next stroke is conceded or in four-ball stroke play when a partner picks up), it is also temporarily in effect where the above described safety measures are being used.

When using most likely score, the player should consider the number of strokes most likely required to complete the hole, and determine whether the ball would have been holed or not. Most likely score is at the player's best judgment and should not be used to gain an unfair advantage.

This measure is temporary and in effect within the United States until advised otherwise by the USGA.

The above guidance will continue to be updated. If you have any questions or concerns, you can contact the Rules of Golf and Rules of Handicapping departments using the information below:

Rules of Golf Department
rules@usga.org
908-326-1850

Handicapping Department
hdcpquestions@usga.org
908-234-2300 Ext. 5

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere

Where did that enlightenment come from?

By definition. Enjoy the light.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere

Sure. Like I said before - extrapolation.

I notice you didn't answer the question. If I hit the pipe - regardless of how many strokes it took me to get there - what's my score?

Wow.......didn't know you needed an answer.



Golf is a game of honor, score what you want to score........no one else cares.

[NotFromAroundHere]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

By definition. Enjoy the light.

Apparently not according to the USGA.