Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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The game is more complicated than most think. You need to learn the movements for:
Putting-chipping-pitching-irons-woods-greenside bunkers-fairway bunkers The first step is the full swing for woods and irons to learn. They are different but most folks think the same. If it takes you 6 shots to reach the green, chipping, pitching,putting are as useless as teats on bull. If the person your playing with uses the same swing for woods and irons, double the bet. Once your reaching the green in 3 shots then pitching chipping putting will do wonders. If you're hitting a lot of bunkers, you need to learn how not to. Again, improving wood and iron full swings. Sure, eventually you need to learn bunker shots but not the main priority. Once on the golf course, it's calling up the swings you have learned in the right places. Your opponent is the golf course, not the person you're playing with. Your ability to play the course vs theirs determines the winner. Bottom line is whoever has the most failure rate (largest margin of error) loses. Unless you coaxed extra shots from them on the first tee, a common liars poker discussion. There is no such thing as muscle memory. Muscles have no memory, only the brain does. Repetition is gained by memory muscle. Once you learn the correct memory for these shots you will play better with a smaller margin of error. Golf is game of decreasing your margin of error. The sweet spot on a club is about the size of nickel or a dime. Don't let club makers fool you. Hit that spot you hit a solid shot. Miss it a little and you still hit a good shot within an acceptable margin of error. The smaller your margin of error the lower your scores. Better swings=smaller margin of error. Please don't expect to hit a ton of nickel or dime shots, won't happen, even for tour players. Focus on improving margin of error. Golf is the game of a lifetime! Sometimes it takes you that long to figure it out, but, it's a fun journey. Never stop learning........... Quote:
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then it is useless and harming. When you take a golf lesson, you should see instant improvement.
Thats when you know you have the right person. Improvement you can take to the course. A pro was asked how his lesson was with Butch Harmon. He said, I had an hour lesson, in 15 minutes he solved my problem and spent the other 45 minutes telling golf stories. Thats a great lesson, a lot costly, but effective. You need to understand that you need to learn many swings so when you play you take the correct arrow(swing) out of your quiver. The player with more arrows wins. The players with less arrows, buys new clubs, very costly and ineffective. So what should be the cost of a great lesson that adds many arrows to your quiver? I Quote:
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Compare that, to the number of MLB players who have played golf at a high level. If you took 5 people from each of the major professional sports and brought them to the golf course and stuck a golf club in their hand, this would likely be the results. MLB pitchers and hitters would likely be the best golfers. They understand ball "spin", hand to eye coordination and they already play a rotational sport. Tennis players, same as above. They understand grip, alignment, spin and play one of the ultimate "hand to eye coordination" sports. Footballers? Most will try to hit the ball with their body (strength) and never learn golf. Quarterbacks maybe a different. The hockey players would probably hit the ball farthest, without a clue where it's going. No NBA player has ever played on the PGA, other than perhaps a novelty invitation. Quote:
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The game of golf is significantly easier than most folks seem to think. It is not a sport of "swing", it's a game of putting the golf ball in the hole and it doesn't matter how you do that or what swing you use. If you have any doubt about that, go to YouTube and watch 3 people swing a golf clue ... Adam Scott, Jim Furyk and Scottie Scheffler If you're still not convinced, watch videos of Charlie Owens and Calvin Peete, Still not convinced? Watch videos of Sam Snead putting and Ben Crenshaw putting. Does "technique" matter? It doesn't matter a lick. If you need more convincing, turn on the Ryder Cup right now. Watch Bryson DeChambeau swing ... then watch his partner Justin Thomas swing. Do you need further convincing? Take up tennis. Anyone who tells you "swing like this", run. If someone tells you to change your swing, depending on what club is in your hand ... run faster. As Lee Trevino once said, "no one has ever hit a golf ball, with his backswing". The only thing that matters, is what's going on with your clubface, within about 6" of the ball and there are only 2 variables ... club face angle (vertical & horizontal) and swing path. Don't take swing advice from anyone who's unwilling to post their current, GHIN reported or otherwise confirmed golf scores and who can't beat you by a decent margin (in most cases).
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"God made me and gave me the right to remain silent, but not the ability." Sen John Kennedy (R-La) " ... and that Norm, is why some folks always feel smarter, when they sign onto TOTV after a few beers" adapted from Cliff Claven, 1/18/90 Last edited by BrianL99; Yesterday at 06:29 AM. |
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Here's a golf tip that everyone should try for 2 or 3 rounds.
It's likely to teach you one of the most important golf lessons you'll every learn. Putting is not what's holding you back. PGA Tour players make about 95% of their putts, inside 3'. Give yourself every 3' putt. (Most already do that.) PGA Tour players make 50% of their 8' putts. Give yourself 50% of your 8' putts. Come on back and post how much your scores improved. You'll probably be shocked that score improvement doesn't match your expectations. If it does dramatically impact your scores, you have ONE major putting flaw. ALL putts are "distance putts". Stop worrying about your aim or direction and just worry about distance. Unless you're blind, most every putt you hit, could go in the hole, at a given speed.
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"God made me and gave me the right to remain silent, but not the ability." Sen John Kennedy (R-La) " ... and that Norm, is why some folks always feel smarter, when they sign onto TOTV after a few beers" adapted from Cliff Claven, 1/18/90 |
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Video, video, VIDEO! Any instructor should video your swing and break it down for you. You should video your own practice sessions. You really have no clue what you’re doing wrong or right without video. Speaking of video, I have learned several swing tweaks by watching YouTube videos and they are FREE! Most people want Rory’s swing without putting in hours of practice. You can video your swing in your own yard, ball not needed. At the range I give a thumbs up or down after a swing because the camera can’t see where the ball went. By the way the driving range behind the Walmart on 466 has a few stations with shot tracers. Video screen shows track of the ball and estimates carry
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$85 -$100 per lessons. One every other week for years. Reduce to one a month for life. Figure the total cost. The instructor will have multiple houses in the Bahamas. |
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And you swing changes as get older, especially if have back problems. IMO golf based on repeatable swing, the clubs do work with loft, once get repeatable swing then you know how far each club hits, example it you hit pitch wedge around 120 yards with full swing 9 135 yards, Ect… woods same. With practice you get feel how shorten or length that average yardage, putting and feel for approach shot totally different with touch and feel. IMO golf all on golfer, golfer either preform or they don’t. Not like other sports where you have to get to ball and then make shot. Again, concentration and repeatability which only comes with practice. |
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Bingo!
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"God made me and gave me the right to remain silent, but not the ability." Sen John Kennedy (R-La) " ... and that Norm, is why some folks always feel smarter, when they sign onto TOTV after a few beers" adapted from Cliff Claven, 1/18/90 |
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Do you doubt that? Google is your friend. Find a photo of Ed Fiori's grip. Paul Azinger's grip and Freddy Couples grip. Compare those to Jack Nicklaus, Tiger Woods and Scottie Scheffler. Want to learn about your "usable grip"? Hang a tire (or something similar" from a ceiling in your garage, about waist height. Figure out what grip allows you to swing a club and hit the tire square ... you'll feel "square" and you'll know if you hit it square, by what the tire does. Or alternatively, if you don't agree the swings are similar, put a bean bag chair on the floor and do the same thing. Figure out the grip that returns a square clubface. Either way, you'll learn how rotation works and the variables. The golf swing is essentially a baseball swing, on a different plane. At least that's what my friend Jim Rice says and he's always been fairly good at hitting both a baseball and a golf ball.
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"God made me and gave me the right to remain silent, but not the ability." Sen John Kennedy (R-La) " ... and that Norm, is why some folks always feel smarter, when they sign onto TOTV after a few beers" adapted from Cliff Claven, 1/18/90 Last edited by BrianL99; Yesterday at 06:26 AM. |
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I took a lesson once and it ruined my game for a month. Just me probably.
Taught myself from the golf channel. Watching women's golf pros helped me slow down my swing. Happy with my game, but I'll never be a pro player. |
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