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Old 07-12-2012, 08:19 PM
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"...They will continue to be your neighbors and living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important in the long run..."/QUOTE]

Rules are rules and following them are important. However, is it more important to have neighbors you are on good terms with or neighbors you don't speak to or associate with? I agree with Gracie when she says "...living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important in the long run." Choose your battles wisely and with your future in mind.

I always think about some good advice given to me years and years ago. That advice was...if you consider this one of the worst things that can happen in your life then run with it. If it isn't one of the worst things that can happen in your life, then let it go. Best advice I've ever been given.


Think about it long and hard before you make your next move.

I expect we will have to live with these people for a long time, but when you pay a large premium for a golf course view and then because someone wants their dogs to be able to run without a leash they block the view you paid for I would think you would be upset too. Seems awful selfish to me. All of the neighbors around us have worked together to put in landscaping that wouldn't block each others view of the course. Then we get one person who thinks it's all a out him. We have a right to be mad. One bad apple is all it takes. Is it the worst thing that could happen? The answer is no but hedges and bushes is not what we paid for.
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:20 PM
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"...They will continue to be your neighbors and living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important in the long run..."/QUOTE]

Rules are rules and following them are important. However, is it more important to have neighbors you are on good terms with or neighbors you don't speak to or associate with? I agree with Gracie when she says "...living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important in the long run." Choose your battles wisely and with your future in mind.

I always think about some good advice given to me years and years ago. That advice was...if you consider this one of the worst things that can happen in your life then run with it. If it isn't one of the worst things that can happen in your life, then let it go. Best advice I've ever been given.

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Old 07-12-2012, 08:28 PM
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I expect we will have to live with these people for a long time, but when you pay a large premium for a golf course view and then because someone wants their dogs to be able to run without a leash they block the view you paid for I would think you would be upset too. Seems awful selfish to me. All of the neighbors around us have worked together to put in landscaping that wouldn't block each others view of the course. Then we get one person who thinks it's all a out him. We have a right to be mad. One bad apple is all it takes. Is it the worst thing that could happen? The answer is no but hedges and bushes is not what we paid for.
I agree that in communities, or villages, like TV, it is important for neighbors to work together and discuss what is symbiotic for everyone, not just for the ambience, but for long term relationships and respect for each others investments. We live in a very private community outside of Seattle. No one can see into our house from any side. But our property line is shared with our neighbor and this winter, the hedge which is on their side toppled over. They could have planted anything they wanted, it was on their side but the impact on our side is significant because it creates the barrier between us and we see it everyday. They consulted us every step of the way, we offered to share costs of taking out the shrubbery which we did, and then they discussed the options with us and it was decided to put up a cedar fence. If we were opposed, we would have worked together for another solution. It was all so pleasant and friendly. Sometimes their dogs come over and poop in our yard, not often, but they are great neighbors. I have never said a word. Sometimes one of our Setters gets loose and they will put the dog back in our house for us or in our yard, or in their yard until we get home. It takes two sides to be pleasant and respectful, and I feel for Happinow who worked meticulously at every detail in choosing her home and creating it, and is only asking for the neighbor to consider the impact that their decision will have on Happinow's home. I think it is reasonable to be considerate in places where you are close together and where your actions impact each other.
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the dog problem is VERY easy to solve,,, Back homeI had a neighbor whose dog did his "bussiness" near my side of the yard.. near where we used to set when we were at the pool,, needless to say the odor got a bit much,,, guy was a real jerk,,, chatting one day with the meter reader he showed me a small unit that they used rather than spray to keep the dogs away... It emitted a harsh tone only the dog could hear,, I ordered one online,,, hooked it up near my pool house,, the tone didnt bother anyone but the dog,, and let me tell you this,, When he came out of the house,, he had a change of heart on where to dump a load for the day... he seemed to not be in the yard much with this tone coming from my yard... was interesting in the winter in snow when you see tracks in snow,, my side of the yard never had tracks in it,, much less anything else!,,,as far as the bushes,,, let him get them all put in,,, then take him to task!! you have tried to be a nice guy,, and work with him,, now be a grizzly bear,, not just a cub!
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:13 PM
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I agree that in communities, or villages, like TV, it is important for neighbors to work together and discuss what is symbiotic for everyone, not just for the ambience, but for long term relationships and respect for each others investments. We live in a very private community outside of Seattle. No one can see into our house from any side. But our property line is shared with our neighbor and this winter, the hedge which is on their side toppled over. They could have planted anything they wanted, it was on their side but the impact on our side is significant because it creates the barrier between us and we see it everyday. They consulted us every step of the way, we offered to share costs of taking out the shrubbery which we did, and then they discussed the options with us and it was decided to put up a cedar fence. If we were opposed, we would have worked together for another solution. It was all so pleasant and friendly. Sometimes their dogs come over and poop in our yard, not often, but they are great neighbors. I have never said a word. Sometimes one of our Setters gets loose and they will put the dog back in our house for us or in our yard, or in their yard until we get home. It takes two sides to be pleasant and respectful, and I feel for Happinow who worked meticulously at every detail in choosing her home and creating it, and is only asking for the neighbor to consider the impact that their decision will have on Happinow's home. I think it is reasonable to be considerate in places where you are close together and where your actions impact each other.
Well said. We are only asking that we all work together to preserve everyone's investment. This guy wants nothing to do with anyone and is clearly on a mission. Honestly it's not the dogs we are concerned with at this point, it's the fact that he is recklessly putting up landscaping without any concern for his neighbors view. We all want to get along but he clearly doesn't want to work with anyone. We aren't the only ones who are not happy with his plan. The other neighbors that it affects are very upset as well. I believe this will all get resolved as with a plan like his it is doubtful that it will get approved because he is breaking the rules.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:25 PM
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If the ARC doesn't enforce the restrictions you have legal ground to sue for enforcement if a homeowner violates the CCR.

I read that alterations including planting must receive prior written approval from the developer if visible from the golf course.

That may be a more important aspect than your own interest to the ARC or developer.


also it says something about "uniformed appearance within the community.

There are many things in the deed restrictions that can apply.


read your deed restrictions carefully.
Especially the section on enforcement which says if you sue for a violation, the losing party pays your legal fee.

You can also get your neighbors to join in a petition or complaint to the developer
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If I were you, Happinow, I would take lots of pictures, every day as this "project" is getting built. Take them now with a clear view, and keep taking them daily standing in exactly the same place with the same thing showing in the picture on the left/right side, to show the same view changing and getting blocked.

Hopefully this will get stopped before they start. If the guy thinks "walls make good neighbors", then he should have a bought a courtyard villa having the walls already in place.
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If I were you, Happinow, I would take lots of pictures, every day as this "project" is getting built. Take them now with a clear view, and keep taking them daily standing in exactly the same place with the same thing showing in the picture on the left/right side, to show the same view changing and getting blocked.

Hopefully this will get stopped before they start. If the guy thinks "walls make good neighbors", then he should have a bought a courtyard villa having the walls already in place.
You hit the nail on the head!! I am camera ready!
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i am so sorry for you, we have a neighbor up north that the dog is outside 19hours a day and barks about 18 of it. we talked to them left them nice notes, had words called animal control. In the end they hate us the neighbors hate the dog, and the poor dog is the one who gets to sit in the rain, snow sun and dark all by himself.
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The Florida Statue that was quoted is promininetly found in the Village Architectural Review Committe Guidelines Page 57 Section 4.10 entitled LANDSCAPING. These guidlines make no distinction about water conservation areas.

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...viewManual.pdf
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thanks for the link, but it should be read in concert with the other, it means the ARC restrictions can not interfere with the state law, not that you can plant anything you wish.

That's my quick read of it.
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"...They will continue to be your neighbors and living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important in the long run..."/QUOTE]

Rules are rules and following them are important. However, is it more important to have neighbors you are on good terms with or neighbors you don't speak to or associate with? I agree with Gracie when she says "...living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important in the long run." Choose your battles wisely and with your future in mind.

I always think about some good advice given to me years and years ago. That advice was...if you consider this one of the worst things that can happen in your life then run with it. If it isn't one of the worst things that can happen in your life, then let it go. Best advice I've ever been given.

Think about it long and hard before you make your next move.
Bright, I agree with your words of wisdom. I really like your post. And I agree also with Gracie's sage advice "living comfortably in a neighborhood is really important. Least said, soonest mended".
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I expect we will have to live with these people for a long time, but when you pay a large premium for a golf course view and then because someone wants their dogs to be able to run without a leash they block the view you paid for I would think you would be upset too. Seems awful selfish to me. All of the neighbors around us have worked together to put in landscaping that wouldn't block each others view of the course. Then we get one person who thinks it's all a out him. We have a right to be mad. One bad apple is all it takes. Is it the worst thing that could happen? The answer is no but hedges and bushes is not what we paid for.
Maybe they have all the approvals and what they are doing is allowed, Maybe they have a electric fence for the dogs, And the bushes are ok, So I would try and get along. Being happy is everything
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Also don't assume the company doing the job got the approval either because many don't. And even if theyget approval we know of a job that was approved, after approval the owner changed the plans because he knew nobody comes out after to see if the job was done by the plans. Godd neighbor relations are important but so are your rights.
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