[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Did you log into the wrong account? lol

Oops, you are right. I was on my laptop and apparently haven't been here on my laptop for age - LOL!

Thanks for catching that.

[Daxdog]

Originally Posted by Ozzello

Seems to be a trend towards this new Round Up ready GMO ST Augustine. THIS I DO NOT ENDORSE!! I hope TV is giving a choice in the new homes to use non-GMO varieties, but I doubt it. If you follow the money, I am sure there is a LOT of money behind this new variety.

I sadly await the future of Mother Nature ( and our ground water, ponds and lakes) where all these lawn spraying companies convince tens of thousands of people to pay them to spray unchecked amounts of herbicide on their lawns..

You don’t approve, what are
your qualifications? Do you know that if plants were not improved an ear of corn would be about 3 inches long.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

True, but the concern is my neighbor(s) might.

With "regular" grass you have to be careful using Roundup since it will kill the grass. Roundup is still used, but it is used sparingly. When the grass is glyphosate-tolerant there will be less concern about overuse of Roundup. If my neighbor's application stays on their property - great. However, if they spray heavily since it won't hurt their grass then the overspray may wind up on my property where it WILL hurt my grass (and other plants).

Someone who used to live near a farm told me about his experience catching overspray from the farmer who had glyphosate-tolerant crops.

Glyphosate does not pass through the skin barrier. So no worries as long as you don't graze on your lawn.

Farmers are a different story since exposure is via the digestive track.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Altavia

Glyphosate does not pass through the skin barrier. So no worries as long as you don't graze on your lawn.

Farmers are a different story since exposure is via the digestive track.

How will my glyphosate-INtolerant grass and shrubs react to overspray from a careless lawn service spraying my neighbor's glyphosate-tolerant lawn?

I've seen squirrels, rabbits, birds, snakes, and dogs in the lawns around here too. I don't know if they would graze on my neighbor's glyphosate-treated lawn or how it would affect them.

As (I think) I stated in my first post, my concern isn't about the GMO plants, my concern is about careless use of Roundup-like chemicals. If there is no careless use then there is no concern.

[maistocars]

Round Up on grass? You wouldn't have grass if you used that.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by maistocars

Round Up on grass? You wouldn't have grass if you used that.

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[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by maistocars

Round Up on grass? You wouldn't have grass if you used that.

There is a Round-Up for lawns.

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[waterflower]

You are correct. Monsato is giving caner to dogs with their wonderful round-up.

[merrymini]

30 percent vinegar halved with water and a small amount of dawn dish detergent, no salt. Salt remains in the soil and I garden a great deal and do not want salt in my soil. Kills everything, so do not spray on a windy day. Do not use round up but cannot tell the lawn people what to use. Make every effort to use least amount of chemicals. Gmo does not necessarily mean it’s bad. We have been eating gmo modified wheat for decades and if it wasn’t for that gmo modified wheat, millions of people all over the globe would have died of starvation.

[Ozzello]

Originally Posted by Daxdog

You don’t approve, what are
your qualifications? Do you know that if plants were not improved an ear of corn would be about 3 inches long.

No, I don't approve. What are your qualifications to question mine?

I didn't and have never said not to improve crops and varieties.
Are you saying cross pollination is the same kind of manipulation as GMO?

Funny it took big pharm buying Monsanto for Round Up to become 100% completely benign to our groundwater, food crops and waterways.

[Ozzello]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

How will my glyphosate-INtolerant grass and shrubs react to overspray from a careless lawn service spraying my neighbor's glyphosate-tolerant lawn?

I've seen squirrels, rabbits, birds, snakes, and dogs in the lawns around here too. I don't know if they would graze on my neighbor's glyphosate-treated lawn or how it would affect them.

As (I think) I stated in my first post, my concern isn't about the GMO plants, my concern is about careless use of Roundup-like chemicals. If there is no careless use then there is no concern.

The unchecked use of roundup is what I was referring to, not the use of a GMO lawn.
The area where this sod is being used is a huge watershed feeding into Lake Okahumka, headwaters for Lake Harris and our Chain of Lakes, Also...Lake Pan as well, feeding into the Withlacoochee and out to the Gulf via Yankeetown. This last area is the heart of the Big Bend .. Nature Coast.. I know nothing I say here will make a difference. Maybe once the MANATEES start having problems and someone finds a ton of glysophate in them. Wait, I forgot about big pharma and such, and how a very similar situation with the gators got hushed up a few years back. Rolling Down Hill like a snowball headed for H...

[MorTech]

GMO is a wonderful thing...Except for Chihuahuas.
Let's just call it "gene editing" so we don't scare the television watchers

glyphosate breaks down in days...It does not go underground since it bonds to soil. It is not harmful to animal life. One billion people have been using RoundUp for 50 years. It is one of the greatest values to mankind right up there with antibiotics, nitrogen fertilizer, atomic power.

You will not hear that on your idiot box

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MorTech

GMO is a wonderful thing...Except for Chihuahuas.
Let's just call it "gene editing" so we don't scare the television watchers

glyphosate breaks down in days...It does not go underground since it bonds to soil. It is not harmful to animal life. One billion people have been using RoundUp for 50 years. It is one of the greatest values to mankind right up there with antibiotics, nitrogen fertilizer, atomic power.

You will not hear that on your idiot box

Of course, the overuse and misuse of all of those have caused (and continue to cause) major problems.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Of course, the overuse and misuse of all of those have caused (and continue to cause) major problems.

Like what specifically? And don't say cancer because it does not.

Glyphosate is basically just a weak phosphorous acid that breaks down rapidly.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Ozzello

The unchecked use of roundup is what I was referring to, not the use of a GMO lawn.
The area where this sod is being used is a huge watershed feeding into Lake Okahumka, headwaters for Lake Harris and our Chain of Lakes, Also...Lake Pan as well, feeding into the Withlacoochee and out to the Gulf via Yankeetown. This last area is the heart of the Big Bend .. Nature Coast.. I know nothing I say here will make a difference. Maybe once the MANATEES start having problems and someone finds a ton of glysophate in them. Wait, I forgot about big pharma and such, and how a very similar situation with the gators got hushed up a few years back. Rolling Down Hill like a snowball headed for H...

Maybe this is why people are confused?

"Seems to be a trend towards this new Round Up ready GMO ST Augustine. THIS I DO NOT ENDORSE!! "