[gustavo]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

You may want to check that writers credentials??????

And the age of the basis for his unprofessional opinion.

It appears the article is written with well documented references to legitimate sources, regardless of the writer's credentials.

[jimbo2012]

Iyo

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Iyo

What does IYO mean?

I THINK I know what UYA means.

Sorry. I can't be good for tooooo long.

[jimbo2012]

IYO = in your opinion

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

IYO = in your opinion

oh. where's the fun in that?

[Cantwaittoarrive]

I agree 100% this is basically the way I eat and I will compare my body fat, blood pressure and blood work with anyone. I eat a ton of healthy fats, grass fed butter, grass fed beef, coconut oil, olive oil , fresh / frozen berries, broccoli, cauliflower, avocadoes. I get less than 50 grams of carbs on a daily basis. I start each day with a cup of coffee that contains 2 tbs of coconut oil and 2 tbs of grass fed butter and then follow an intermittent fasting protocol. I've done this for years and it happens to follow the protocol for a med study I'm part of and have been part of for many years. My doctor told me on my last visit with numbers like mine I will live forever.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

I think if folks saw the way the animals feed, housed, slaughtered and processed many would place any part of them in their mouth.

Do some reading on what constitutes free range, it's a big joke.

I grew up on a farm and I eat animals on a daily basis

[gustavo]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

We take NO meds at all (for three years), we certainly don't miss the side effects of those drugs and feel great works for us.

Understand I'm not trying to convert anyone to becoming a vegan, make your own informed decision.

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Never taken any meds (forever), always have eaten meat. Your mileage may vary.

[skyc6]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

I think if folks saw the way the animals feed, housed, slaughtered and processed many would place any part of them in their mouth.

Do some reading on what constitutes free range, it's a big joke.

This post doesn't read clearly.

[jimbo2012]

I didn't type that

I think if folks saw the way the animals were fed, housed then slaughtered and processed many people wouldn't eat meat.

Do some reading on what constitutes free range, it's a big joke.

“Free-range chickens conjure up in some consumers’ minds pictures of contented fowl strolling around the barnyard, but the truth is, all a chicken grower needs to do is give the birds some access to the outdoors whether the chickens decide to take a gambol or stay inside with hundreds or thousands of other birds, under government rules growers are free to label them free-range.

“As all free-range animals are still viewed as objects to be killed for food, they are subject to abusive handling, transport, and slaughter [see, for example, this footage of slaughter]. Free-range animals, like all animals used for their milk and eggs, are still slaughtered at a fraction of their normal life expectancy.”


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The free-range label applies only to birds raised for meat, not eggs. There is a cage-free label for eggs; but it is not regulated by the USDA, nor does it guarantee that the hens were provided access to the outdoors. Neither label requires third-party certification. Even for USDA Organic, the most extensively regulated label, minimum levels of outdoor access have not been set and specific rules do not apply to stocking density or flock size

“Steve Mahrt, self-proclaimed ‘head chicken farmer’ and owner of Petaluma Farms, has been selling fertile, cage-free and organic eggs to West Coast consumers for 20 years.… ‘We’re the original, free-ranging chicken people,’ says Mahrt, a former California Egg Commission chairman.”

his farm

[graciegirl]

It doens't help to personalize our food. As each of our grandchildren went through that process I tried to divert them from it.

You are a vegan. Most of us aren't.

What if we showed a picture of a piece of manure stuck to lettuce or folks from other countries peeing near the pea patch?.

We have to eat. Lots of little bacteria are screaming ouch as they fall into our stomach acid.

Do unto others..don't cha know?

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

I didn't type that

I think if folks saw the way the animals were fed, housed then slaughtered and processed many people wouldn't eat meat.

Do some reading on what constitutes free range, it's a big joke.

“Free-range chickens conjure up in some consumers’ minds pictures of contented fowl strolling around the barnyard, but the truth is, all a chicken grower needs to do is give the birds some access to the outdoors whether the chickens decide to take a gambol or stay inside with hundreds or thousands of other birds, under government rules growers are free to label them free-range.

“As all free-range animals are still viewed as objects to be killed for food, they are subject to abusive handling, transport, and slaughter [see, for example, this footage of slaughter]. Free-range animals, like all animals used for their milk and eggs, are still slaughtered at a fraction of their normal life expectancy.”


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The free-range label applies only to birds raised for meat, not eggs. There is a cage-free label for eggs; but it is not regulated by the USDA, nor does it guarantee that the hens were provided access to the outdoors. Neither label requires third-party certification. Even for USDA Organic, the most extensively regulated label, minimum levels of outdoor access have not been set and specific rules do not apply to stocking density or flock size

“Steve Mahrt, self-proclaimed ‘head chicken farmer’ and owner of Petaluma Farms, has been selling fertile, cage-free and organic eggs to West Coast consumers for 20 years.… ‘We’re the original, free-ranging chicken people,’ says Mahrt, a former California Egg Commission chairman.”

his farm

We've seen much beloved chickens for meat and laying hens, for eggs, when we attended a joint birthday party for our young grandson and his best buddy at the friend's home . The chicken coops were on the back acreage near a babbling brook.........beautiful forest out back.......all of the chickens were "friendly" and allowed the various assorted aged children to "hold them"........we have pics of our 5 year old grandaughter (age at the time) holding each beautifully colored chicken..........

The chickens were allowed to roam free when the family was outside with them. Obviously, there are critters up here that could attack them, thus the complex chicken housing..........

The dad (host of the party) and his wife showed us their freezers in the house which were filled with their organic chicken meat........they also had the "laying hens" like our kids have, ditto for our friends' kids.....it's all the rage up here and elsewhere...........to raise chickens....for eggs, and sometimes for the meat.........I guess the "hobby" evolves.

They don't sell it. They use it for themselves.

Oh, and our few year older grand daughter now has chickens of her own.......for eggs. She LOVES THEM. She even brings her favorites into the house.
I know, I wouldn't do it either..........but they do it.

Our littlest grandbabies also love their chickens (again being raised for eggs).........I guess they all feel they know what goes into the chickens and what comes out is a pure egg.....NOT from a poultry farm, mass produced. We were at our son's wedding in Colorado three years ago when the news was all over about the IOWA chicken scandal..............you should have heard all the people eating at the resort restaurant.
EVERYONE was afraid to eat the eggs from that Iowa farm..........

No one eats healthier than our adult son and his wife, or our daughter and her husband............yet they all eat their eggs. All are slender and healthy.

Eggs used to be considered the perfect food. Egg and bananas, another perfect food which God put on the earth.

Eggs are so very versatile.......

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

It doens't help to personalize our food. As each of our grandchildren went through that process I tried to divert them from it.

You are a vegan. Most of us aren't.

What if we showed a picture of a piece of manure stuck to lettuce or folks from other countries peeing near the pea patch?.

We have to eat. Lots of little bacteria are screaming ouch as they fall into our stomach acid.

Do unto others..don't cha know?

E coli is very dangerous. The book I'm reading now (just in the beginning so i don't have a clue where he got the e coli bacteria that attacked his brain, apparently........) will find out soon enough.

It is found on vegetables and who knows what people are doing when the boss isn't looking (as mentioned above)..........

It's also in hamburger meat, granted that. We can grill our burgers or broil them to make sure to kill the bacteria..........but we can't cook our lettuce.........or our cantalupe.

[Parker]

"I start each day with a cup of coffee that contains 2 tbs of coconut oil and 2 tbs of grass fed butter and then follow an intermittent fasting protocol." by Cantwaittoarrive, above.

If I started my day with this, believe I'd opt to stay in bed. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

What does IYO mean?

I THINK I know what UYA means.

Sorry. I can't be good for tooooo long.

Okay, so what does UYA mean?