[CoachKandSportsguy]

FL reverses mandate for childhood vaccines to attend public schools.

Do the med DRs here agree with the decision? I don't

Florida working to end all vaccine mandates: DeSantis and Ladapo – NBC 6 South Florida

yes, pediatricians will recommend it, but the crazy anti vaxxers will decline and put lots of children at risk. . and will this then put elderly at risk?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

FL reverses mandate for childhood vaccines to attend public schools.

Do the med DRs here agree with the decision? I don't

Florida working to end all vaccine mandates: DeSantis and Ladapo – NBC 6 South Florida

yes, pediatricians will recommend it, but the crazy anti vaxxers will decline and put lots of children at risk. . and will this then put elderly at risk?

Not commenting on the choice factor yet but I don't see how this would put the elderly at risk, they are supposedly vaccinated and are, therefore, impervious.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Not commenting on the choice factor yet but I don't see how this would put the elderly at risk, they are supposedly vaccinated and are, therefore, impervious.

Not impervious, just better protected and protection can be insufficient or even fail.

Multilayer protection means you wear your seatbelt AND drive safely. You take the vaccines to protect yourself AND rely on others to take the vaccines to reduce the risk for everyone.

[Caymus]

I have not researched it, but how many vaccines did someone born in the late 1950's receive. I remember eating a sugar cube for polio, a shot for smallpox and years later one for tetanus.

Were their others at that time?

[Papa_lecki]

They are not ending childhood vaccines, they are allowing parents (not the government) to decide what vaccines are best for their children.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

FL reverses mandate for childhood vaccines to attend public schools.

Do the med DRs here agree with the decision? I don't

Florida working to end all vaccine mandates: DeSantis and Ladapo – NBC 6 South Florida

yes, pediatricians will recommend it, but the crazy anti vaxxers will decline and put lots of children at risk. . and will this then put elderly at risk?

You haven’t a clue about “third world countries “. I’ve lived in a few and we are far and away superior to that status. In fact we are far and away better than any European nation. Just because vaccine mandates have been removed, or that parent’s can now file for an exemptions, doesn’t mean we will ever be that third world country.

It must be fun telling other people what they have to do with their bodies .

[bopat]

Vaccines protect you, not others. Go get yourself boosted.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

They are not ending childhood vaccines, they are allowing parents (not the government) to decide what vaccines are best for their children.

That path leads to some dangerous destinations.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I got my smallpox, polio, and DTP shots all when I was a baby or a toddler, depending on the recommendation. The DTP was eventually phased out and the Tdap replaced it in 1991. I came down with a case of chicken pox, so I never had to worry about getting the vaccine for that. My sister had the mumps and I was exposed and didn't get sick, so we assume I'm immune. But later in life I did get the MMR shot "just in case." It didn't exist when I was born. Once the Shingrix vaccine became available for me when I turned 50 I got the 2-dose shot, and also started getting a yearly flu shot. Now I also get whatever new COVID shot is provided from year to year.

So whatever some parents choose to reject for their children, is their problem when things go wrong. I'm protected. I think anyone whose child /cannot/ be vaccinated due to medical issues, should sue the State of Florida if their kid gets sick as a result of the deniers being given permission to reject science.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

You haven’t a clue about “third world countries “. I’ve lived in a few and we are far and away superior to that status. In fact we are far and away better than any European nation. Just because vaccine mandates have been removed, or that parent’s can now file for an exemptions, doesn’t mean we will ever be that third world country.

It must be fun telling other people what they have to do with their bodies .

Just because you run with scissors doesn't mean you'll trip and fall and stab yourself but it is sure to increase the odds.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Caymus

I have not researched it, but how many vaccines did someone born in the late 1950's receive. I remember eating a sugar cube for polio, a shot for smallpox and years later one for tetanus.

Were their others at that time?

Born 1948: Polio vax about 1955, Smallpox about the same time (maybe a couple of years later) and maybe tetanus. I do recall tetanus boosters as an adult so the original must have been given at some time or other.

Other than that...nada. I remember at about age 9 or so (happened earlier too from what I heard), if one kid came down with measles, or mumps, or chicken pox, the other parents in the community would bring their kids around to be exposed, the hard logic behind the practice being that those diseases, being "one and done", having the kids get it at a time of their parents' choosing just made things easier for everyone. We kids didn't mind: mumps was uncomfortable for a few days (I recall the horror stories about mumps "going down"...(didn't realize what that meant until years after I had them). Chicken pox was nothing: maybe three sores and that was it. Measles likewise, though mom insisted that the kid(s) with the measles had to be in bed with the lights off for a couple of days. Any one of the three meant a few days off from school so it was sort of like a vacation.

Funny. I don't remember, or even remember hearing, about a kid getting really sick or dying from any of those diseases. They were just a minor part of growing up.

Which is why I agree with making vaccinations optional. The State arbitrarily going the in loco parentis route is tantamount to saying not only that the parents don't have the brains to act in the best interest of their child, but that the state does. I haven't seen much evidence of that.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Normal

You haven’t a clue about “third world countries “. I’ve lived in a few and we are far and away superior to that status. In fact we are far and away better than any European nation. Just because vaccine mandates have been removed, or that parent’s can now file for an exemptions, doesn’t mean we will ever be that third world country.

It must be fun telling other people what they have to do with their bodies .

So then you're pro-choice. I approve of that opinion.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The State arbitrarily going the in loco parentis route is tantamount to saying not only that the parents don't have the brains to act in the best interest of their child, but that the state does. I haven't seen much evidence of that.

You can't get a driver's license without taking a test.

From what I've seen out there in the world, there are plenty of parents who shouldn't have a Driver's License and surely shouldn't be allowed to have children.

The evidence on both sides of the argument is questionable.

[Normal]

Analytically, it’s like a famous person claiming everyone should go green, then hopping in their own private jet to pump millions of pounds of carbon into our atmosphere for just their benefit and traveling on to their next engagement. “Do as I say, not as I do.”

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

They are not ending childhood vaccines, they are allowing parents (not the government) to decide what vaccines are best for their children.

I wonder if the children of DeSantis are vaccinated. Many unvaccinated children in Florida will die. Should I be concerned about this? I suspect that teachers will file lawsuits to prevent this to happen.