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Originally Posted by Andyb

Seems you are touting the vaccines and boosters more than your expression of getting COV!D. I suggest doing more research, before pushing the vax on people. Statistically, more people vaxed are getting COV!D, than the unvaxed. Cruises discriminated from misinformation. Glad your ok.

You are most certainly correct about my appreciation for our vaccines. I truly believe my vaccines and boosters have protected me from serious illness. I was protected long enough for this virus to mutate into a much less virulent beast that it was in the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Two Bills

First bivalent COVID-19 booster vaccine approved by UK medicines regulator - GOV.UK

Thank you, Moderna!

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Originally Posted by Susan1717

I had covid a year and a half ago. For myself, I get my antibodies tested every three months with other blood work. I’m doing my own personal study for my body, and so far my antibody level is still sky high and has not gone down one bit. I’m refusing vaccines at this point fit myself as I’m afraid to mess with my immunity. Every person knows their body and what works best. There’s no one fits all.

Will your antibodies protect you from Omicron? IMHO, and it is just that, an opinion........this virus we have circulating now is so mild I don't think it could hurt a fly. Again.......MY OPINION.

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Originally Posted by JMintzer

Absolutely false. Both Fauci AND the CDC initially told us that if you got vaccinated, there was a 95% chance that you would NOT get Covid. There were even some elected officials, some very high up in the food chain (whom I dare not mention, lest I get another "vacation"), who made the same claims...

Nothing was said about increasing any chances of not ending up in the hospital and dying until much later, when they found out their initial claims were wrong...

Yes, I remember that claim. That 95% was the efficacy from all the trials done by Moderna. If I recall correctly, Moderna did have better efficacy numbers than Pfeizer. I took that 95% efficacy to mean that there is a 5% chance of me getting Covid after I was vaccinated. I don't ever remember feeling that I had no shot at all of getting Covid. As soon as I was fully vaccinated, I felt very protected, knowing I had a 95% chance of not getting Covid and a 100% chance of not winding up in the hospital if I were one of the unlucky 5% of people who would get Covid. That is the way I understood those efficacy claims from the vaccine manufacturers.

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Originally Posted by JMintzer

Same here, except I had covid 2 1/2 years ago... Still have the antibodies (per my last blood test in March)...

My wife just had her 2nd bout with Covid last month, despite being vaccinated and boosted (once). Typical flu-like symptoms for a week...

I tested a few times during her illness and recovery... Nada...

Good for you.

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Wow....didn't see that one coming!!

I know. Right? I was fully expecting for one or both of us to eventually catch this bug, especially on a cruise ship with those crowded elevators. This is our third cruise since cruising has made a come back.

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Originally Posted by maistocars

Oh my, so many vax believers. Good luck!

I have already had the luck of not getting Covid before it mutated in this little kitten of a virus. I can thank the vaccine for my luck. Once I was fully vaccinated, I didn't live in fear enjoying life, took off my mask and never looked back. All thanks to the vaccine.

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Originally Posted by Bruce3055

Be careful on your recovery and start back easy after a negative test. I over did it after my negative test and was wiped out. Now I'm on a more conservative recovery plan to avoid long covid issues.

There have been a lot of "bounce-back" infections a week or more after testing negative. So be careful.

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus

What do you mean "protected"? The vaccinated are getting infected and sick all the time ... yourself included. You call that protected?

Would you be equally sanguine in the face of contracting polio after a polio vaccine or shingles, smallpox, tetanus, measles, mumps, hepatitis or meningitis after getting their corresponding vaccine? Hell, no! You also don't have a test kit for any of these diseases in your medicine cabinet.

If you get bitten by a dog, proof of the dog having had a timely rabies vaccine is sufficient to quell any fears of getting rabies from that bite. That's because the rabies vaccine works. The various covid-19 shots have no such track record.

One gets the shot and then the booster and then the second booster and you STILL have to worry about getting covid. That's not a vaccine. That's what I call a scam. And it needs to end.

To that point, my wife and I (both unvaccinated with these COVID shots) are taking a cruise in late September. I remember talk of only elite vaccinated persons being able to sail. I remember talk of this being a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". Now, neither are true. The vaccinated can and do acquire the virus, become infected (even without symptoms) and spread the virus to others.

It's finally understood that the unvaccinated are no threat to any other person as the vaccinated can, and do, spread the virus just as easily. The choice to remain unvaccinated is therefore a personal choice. And those that choose to become vaccinated do so to protect themselves against serious disease ... not their neighbors, friends, family. They can each make their own decisions on the safety and efficacy of the supposed vaccine. From where I sit, those that chose to take the shot don't look very "protected" as compared to historical vaccine efficacy.

Too many people died from the original strain and the mutation known as Delta. Most of those people who died were not vaccinated. I much preferred not to have to live in fear of dying so I protected myself with the vaccine. I will never see it your way and you will never see it my way. Agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by Andyb

Statistically, more people vaxed are getting COV!D, than the unvaxed. Cruises discriminated from misinformation. Glad your ok.

Because we are at a point where statistically many more people are vaccinated than not.

Previously posted, with 9 in 10 vaccinated, roughly the same number from each group died from COVID.

Bottom line is you are still 5-10 times more likely to die from COVID if not vaccinated. Especially if elderly or immunocompromised.

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Please, let us know when you test positive, admitted to hospital and put on a ventilator.😟

Is that still happening? Isn't this virus much less virulent than the original strain we were dealing with BEFORE the vaccines? I don't think folks who are not vaccinated at this point need to fear this virus at this point in time.

As and aside (and I'm sorry for venturing off topic of this thread)...............Cruise lines are now allowing unvaccinated adults on their ships but they need a negative test to embark. Funny part about that is, some cruise lines are accepting UN-proctored tests. How silly is that? Why even bother requiring negatives tests?

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Originally Posted by Michread

How quickly you have forgotten the lies you were told.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...UJ69bVcnr_soHP

Just one example of what I saw in this video..........

Dr. Fauci said "you will have a very high degree of protection........" He did NOT say you will be 100% protected. That is just one example. You need to really listen to what is being said by these people in high places.

I never ever was made to believe that being vaccinated I would NOT get Covid. I do recall being told that vaccinated people would not be hospitalized and die. I figured a 95% chance of not getting Covid was good enough for me to feel safe. That safety net that I felt protected me from being hospitalized and that safety net would prevent me from dying. Again......that protection was good enough for me to feel safe from a virus that was extremely virulent at the time.

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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

You'll know it's really working well if you die after one of the shots like thousands of others have.

Covid would be about non-existent in the US by now IF 95% of the people had taken the vaccine early on - to be patriotic and look out for their fellow man. Unfortunately, ignorance and propaganda from various dark media and maybe even Russian trolls prevented that from happening. Now everyone has to worry about prolonged exposure to crowds particularly in indoor areas. Great thanks to the antisocial few. Funny how other countries reacted better than the US.

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Coffee bean, how are you today?

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser

There have been a lot of "bounce-back" infections a week or more after testing negative. So be careful.

If I don't have symptoms after this bout of Covid, I won't be testing so I may not even know if I have a rebound infection. I don't think the average Joe and Jane test weekly unless they need to test for work or are people in high places.