[BaylorBear]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Do you fart a lot?

NOW I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE, THAT'S FUNNY!!!!!!

[jimbo2012]

A few links to check out

Dr. Oz vegan challange

No more heart [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNeWCvLZaFM"]attacks[/ame]

In the most remarkable recent discovery about olive oil, Dr. Robert Vogel at the University of Maryland reported in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology that olive oil was found to reduce blood flow in arteries by 31 percent after consumption. This is significant in relation to blood clots and heart attacks, as well as angina. It's suggested that people be aware of any relationship between consuming olive oil and an angina attack. Also, it was found that olive oil "causes significant damage" to the endothelial cells that line the inside of arteries. This damage causes inflammation which leads to atherosclerosis.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

A few links to check out

Dr. Oz vegan challange

No more heart attacks

In the most remarkable recent discovery about olive oil, Dr. Robert Vogel at the University of Maryland reported in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology that olive oil was found to reduce blood flow in arteries by 31 percent after consumption. This is significant in relation to blood clots and heart attacks, as well as angina. It's suggested that people be aware of any relationship between consuming olive oil and an angina attack. Also, it was found that olive oil "causes significant damage" to the endothelial cells that line the inside of arteries. This damage causes inflammation which leads to atherosclerosis.

Thanks for the infromation. You know, I have questioned the value of olive oil many times in the past. I never voiced those concerns to anyone but I would think about it to myself. I would tell people that they should only eat natural whole foods, but olive oil is not a whole food. It's a processed food!

Okay, I can live without olive oil but I believe I do need at least a small amount of fat in my diet. So I guess the solution is to have a few nuts to take the place of the olive oil. I'm going to try it as soon as I finish the olive oil that I have.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Thanks for the infromation. You know, I have questioned the value of olive oil many times in the past. I never voiced those concerns to anyone but I would think about it to myself. I would tell people that they should only eat natural whole foods, but olive oil is not a whole food. It's a processed food!

Okay, I can live without olive oil but I believe I do need at least a small amount of fat in my diet. So I guess the solution is to have a few nuts to take the place of the olive oil. I'm going to try it as soon as I finish the olive oil that I have.

You two should form a club. You have a lot in common.

[jimbo2012]

Only if you join

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You two should form a club. You have a lot in common.

I did form a club many years ago. It was supposed to be a roundtable discussion group where everyone contributes something. It was to be based on a Zone book to start with. Most people showed up without doing any reading and sat there waiting for me to deliver a lecture. At future meetings I arranged to have a nutritionist and a doctor come in to talk about diet and health. As summer approached the group got smaller and smaller so I decided to end it. There were a few who wanted to keep going but I couldn't see where it would be of much value.

So of course I'm reluctant to get involved again.

[rubicon]

All of these Ponce de Leon theories are certainly helpful.. In fact my aunt's husband followed a strict regime from an early age. But at the age 70 he was stricken wih Azhemier's . He went into a medical facility at the age of 75 and lived their until is death at age 95.

My plan is to continue to live at the Greeks advised "moderation in all things, exercise daily and let my DNA be the final determinant.

[jimbo2012]

You can lead a horse to water..................

All these discussions at best may only plant a seed for someone to think about in the future.

But if they have or someone close has a medical event that may trigger their need to eat healthier, then it happens.

When speaking in person and I mention books or a dvd and they look for a pen to note the info I know they're really listening.

Invariably this comes up parties, bbq's or eating out when we decline certain foods, we used to explain away, but it's easier to just say we already eat, but I'll have a glass of wine.....if they ask then we'll talk about it.

When we move there we would be willing to do showing of 1 or 2 DVD with Q&A afterwards, we did that at the community we stayed at this past winter, out of about 1400 residents almost 60 showed up.
The Q&A went on for 90 minutes.

We had a lot of fun doing it.

It's not just changing your diet, it is like moving to TV, a lifestyle change both of those can allow you to enjoy the next 20-30 years without being overweight, reverse some ailments, reducing the meds you may be taking or developing preventable ailments.

Off to Happy Hour.......

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by rubicon

All of these Ponce de Leon theories are certainly helpful.. In fact my aunt's husband followed a strict regime from an early age. But at the age 70 he was stricken wih Azhemier's . He went into a medical facility at the age of 75 and lived their until is death at age 95.

My plan is to continue to live at the Greeks advised "moderation in all things, exercise daily and let my DNA be the final determinant.

Moderation, as I see it, should apply to natural whole foods. So that means not eating broccoli every day. One might have broccoli for one or two days and then switch to cauliflower. That's not a real life example because I eat many different vegetables every day. But they are not always the same vegetables. I switch around depending on what's in season or what's on sale.
The same goes for fruit. Right now I'm eating a lot of blueberries, peaches and blackberries (among others) while they are in season.

Some people make the mistake of thinking that moderation should also apply to processed foods. My mother was one of them. If she had a donut one day, cookies the next and a piece of pie the next day, she said she thought it was okay because it represented "moderation". She made that judgement even though each day her dessert consisted of refined white flour, refined sugar and saturated fat.

When the Greeks advised moderation in all things, how long ago did they give that advice? I believe that refers to the ancient greeks. No doubt it was very good advice back then. Back then they didn't have all of the processed fast foods that we have today. So, it's safe to say, they never advised anyone to eat fast food in moderation.

Letting DNA or genes be the final determinant: Most people have genes for one disease or another and maybe several. But most genes need to be triggered by something in the environment and diet is considered to be a part of the environment. So let's say you have a gene for diabetes (if there is such a gene). Eating fast food (processed food) and becoming overweight is exactly what would trigger diabetes. Everyone is different so it might take a lot of fast food or a moderate amount with little or no exercise.

No one ever said that eating a strict healthy diet is a sure thing that will yield perfect health. What it's all about is reducing risk.

[ilovetv]

Life......and food....are to be enjoyed......with moderation.

"In a vegan café in New York City, Nisha Moodley pushes a glass crusted with the remnants of a berry-açai-almond milk smoothie across the table and begins listing the foods she excised from her diet six years ago.

"Factory-farmed meats; hormone-laden dairy; conventional non-organic fruits and vegetables; anything hydrogenated; anything microwaved," the slender 32-year-old health coach says. "I would not eat irradiated food; charred or blackened foods; artificial coloring, flavoring, or sweetener; MSG; white rice; sugar; table salt; or anything canned.

Back then, a typical breakfast for Moodley consisted of buckwheat mixed with seaweed, raw cacao powder, flax oil, and flax seeds. Lunch was usually homemade brown rice with lentils, fresh vegetables, and kale, followed by a mid-afternoon snack of homemade flax-seed-and-buckwheat crackers.

And for dinner, a salad with garbanzo beans, avocado, carrots, beets, and mushrooms.

Moodley initially adopted this diet to address recurring bad digestion. But her commitment to healthy eating -- something to be commended, ordinarily -- turned into an obsession that took over her life. "I was terrified of food that didn't fit within my idea of what was healthy," Moodley says. "I was terrified of cancer, of dying."

She couldn't eat out with friends, attend dinner parties, or shop at certain grocery stores because of her intense phobia. Her anxiety was so overwhelming that her stomach problems worsened.

Moodley knew she had a problem, but she didn't view it as an eating disorder. Although she had been a self-described "emotional overeater" for most of her life, the naturally slim Moodley had never been concerned about her weight, nor had she ever purged after her binges. Her unhealthy fixation with healthy food was something else, and it was years before she realized it had a name: orthorexia......"

When eating healthy turns obsessive - CNN.com

[jimbo2012]

That's a isolated example of a disorder don't you think.

That is over the top, we enjoy eating out often we do this to socialize not because we're starving, we enjoy the company of others or the atmosphere if just us.

I don't say anything if others have steak & fries it's their biz, they shouldn't care what we eat.

We certainly don't eat the way the Nisha Moodley does.

It's our own individual choice.

[BaylorBear]

It is truly unfortunate that in order to have the last word on something that one would deliberately search out articles that are of abberrant behaviors. Any lifestyle or regimen can become obsessive, just read the newspapers. That crap always makes the front page!

I do not believe that is what Jimbo has in mind. He has shared a great deal of information that can be authenticated from many sources. All he asks, is that you consider this intelligently, nothing more. He does not attack your lifestyle, he only shared his and why he and his wife chose it and how it has affected their lives for the better. It certainly got me thinking, that's for sure!

Jimbo, very though provoking information. Thanks for sharing.

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Do you fart a lot?

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by pooh

In all honesty, I'm not sure if this is actually possible for some. Of course, taking care to eat right, take safety precautions in living and taking and doing things in moderation is a good way to live, but there are those little genes that might just prevent long life. My Dad lived to 98 years of age....he smoked, drank, had lots of stress in his life, and didn' eat well by today's definition of what's healthy, but his mother as well as his grandmother lived into their very late 90's. My father-in-law exercised, ate well, regularly visited his health care providers, yet he died at 72 from cancer, a disease that plagued his family, and took the lives of his parents as well as many of his siblings.

I'm not advocating throwing all caution to the wind and doing whatever the heck we want....but it must also be recognized that we are the results of DNA soup and sometimes, no matter what....we either live longer or shorter lives. Sometimes our efforts to eat well, drink in moderation, and all the other things we do to stall the Grim Reaper, may keep some of around longer, sometimes, not.

I'll get off my soapbox now and get busy....the more you move, the less likely you will rust.....

I plan to emulate my uncle who is 99 years old.

Sister died at 104.
Sister died at 102.
Brother died at 99.

Sister is 101 years old.

The other siblings "died young", his words not mine. They were in there 70's.

He did things in modration, never smoked, drank wine with dinner and lived a clean lifestyle. He never overate, believed in keeping busy and doing the right thing.

Unfortunately, I am not in his DNA line but my aunt is and she is 96.

I plan to move to TV and keep busy. Thats my plan and I am sticking to it.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by BaylorBear

It is truly unfortunate that in order to have the last word on something that one would deliberately search out articles that are of abberrant behaviors. Any lifestyle or regimen can become obsessive, just read the newspapers. That crap always makes the front page!

I do not believe that is what Jimbo has in mind. He has shared a great deal of information that can be authenticated from many sources. All he asks, is that you consider this intelligently, nothing more. He does not attack your lifestyle, he only shared his and why he and his wife chose it and how it has affected their lives for the better. It certainly got me thinking, that's for sure!

Jimbo, very though provoking information. Thanks for sharing.

The thread is about "defeating" or "slowing down aging". Addictive, "aberrant", obsessive behavior accelerates aging.....big time.

And so, the article applies here, to this thread.

The other problem with addictive, "aberrant", obsessive behavior is that the person trapped in such a self-destructive, rapidly-aging cycle.....is the last to know and admit it's controlling them. Family and friends often live in agony watching their loved ones being enslaved by their addictive behavior.

And lastly, NOT expecting to "have the last word", I think all the medical and nutritional "experts" cited above would agree that mental health is just as crucial as physical health, for a long and happy life!