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Old 08-16-2023, 08:43 AM
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Never had a flu shot, and never got the flu.
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Old 08-16-2023, 08:44 AM
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Then why are healthy teenaged athletes dying of heart attacks on the field.? My daughter lost her ability to walk and short term memory just after her first booster? Why are doctors NOW allowed to prescribe Ivermectin as a therapeutic for Covid?
No scandal my left eyeball.
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:12 AM
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I never saw any of these promises
-you won't get Covid if you take the jab
-you won't spread covid if you take the jab
-etc

Your internist, I am sure, told you that your chances of getting a severe case with your then current health conditions are small. I doubt he told you NOT to get the booster.

What we were told is that they REDUCE THE CHANCE of getting a severe case and/or die. It was never even touted to be anywhere close to 100% effective.

The only thing that is right with this post is that they do take an educated guess on the Flu virus's that will be prevalent in the next year for the annual flu shot. If their educated guess is wrong and new strains appear, the flu shot would not be effective for these strains.
From the Snopes website:

"During an unscripted CNN town hall on July 21, Biden falsely stated that those who had been vaccinated would not get COVID, be hospitalized, or end up in an ICU and die."

There are video clips of this as well.

It's frustrating to have people generalize or support a "does not exist" statement. My university class in Logics taught me this.

I know this is off topic from original post, but wanted to show this did happen.

These days, skepticism with mainstream media and social media is warrantied. Seek the truth from multiple sources and good luck!
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:37 AM
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Ye Gods and little fishes.
Hasn't this horse been beaten to death enough already?'
Either get the £$&**% jabs/boosters/shots, whatever, or don't get them..
After 3 years of same old, same old, no one is going to change their opinions now.
Off to get my Lysol booster shot in morning!
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:41 AM
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When you were practicing, did you not get the memo that virii are able to mutate? I mean, you started 30+ years ago, supposedly. There are all kinds of virus strains now, that didn't exist 30+ years ago, or 20+ years ago, or even 5 years ago. The flu is one of them, and every year, the vaccine is adjusted to cover the newest strains they're able to catch while developing the new vaccine. That's why it isn't a one-and-done vaccine. Because every year, the flu is a little different from the year before.

RSV was only known to affect infants - at first. Now, 30+ years later, it's also known to affect the elderly.

To those who actually don't know, rather than those who insist they do know:

RSV isn't a sickness. It is a virus that CAUSES sickness. You can have RSV and not ever get sick. Or, you can have RSV and die. There's an inbetween as well: you can have RSV and just assume it's a cold, nothing more or less. That is the MOST common experience with RSV no matter what age you are. But some people die. There are more people who die with RSV when they're infants, immuno-compromised people of all ages, and older adults, than any other demographic.

Whether big pharma, the CDC, the American Lung Association, or your local supplement store is telling you this or not, it's just how it is. You don't have to like facts, but them's the facts.
And from where did you get your medical degree?
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:55 AM
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Default Plural of virus "vira"??? Too off topic?

Never understood using "virii" as a plural of "virus. Figured "viri" made some sense, but guess that would actually mean "men". Only just now got around to googling it. Not what I expected to find. Don't recall such a thing as a "neuter noun" - at least not one that ended in "us".

From What Is the Plural of Virus?.

It is common knowledge that the plurals of many words from Latin end in "-a" or "-i." Data, for instance, is the plural of datum and alumni is the plural of an alumnus. Is the plural of virus viri and if not, why?

Neuter and Masculine Nouns
​Latin neuters end in "-a" in the plural for the nominative and accusative cases:

Datum > data
Singular > plural
The plural of "virus" is "viruses" in English. Virus is a neuter noun in Latin. That means its plural, if there were an attested ancient usage of virus in the plural, would have ended in an "-a," because neuter nouns in (ancient Greek and) Latin end in an "-a" in the plural nominative and accusative cases. The example of the plural of datum is a case in point. Since datum is a neuter singular, its plural is data.

Since virus is neuter, vira is a possibility for the nominative/accusative plural. It could not be viri. Second declension masculine nouns end in "-i" in the nominative plural:

Alumnus > alumni
Singular > plural
Viri is the plural of the masculine second declension noun vir, which means "man." Vir is a masculine noun and the "-i" ending is appropriate for the plural nominative of masculine second declension nouns.

"Virus," by the way, can refer either an "infectious agent" or a computer program that "is usually disguised as an innocuous program or file," which inserts a copy of itself into another program "that when run usually performs a malicious action," Merriam-Webster notes.
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:56 AM
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Well aren't you special. Your experience is useful to exactly nobody. Yet here you are suggesting that with your super importance and super immunity you should let us all know how super special your exemption is and that you believe you have never gotten influenza even with no vaccine protection.

That's like all the people telling us how they never wear seat belts and yet still survive. All the people who drive drunk and never had an accident. All the people who play golf in during a thunderstorm and never got struck by lightning.

In other words, you got lucky. For those who want to hope to be as lucky as Asianthree, ignore your doctor's advice if they recommend a flu shot or any other shot or any other measure to reduce your health care risks.

I of course am certain that when Asianthree is caring for those 150 patients a day they are all being informed that the nurse [are you a nurse?] is not vaccinated and given the option of asking for a fully vaccinated nurse. I would want to know that my provider was doing as much as possible to not make me sick. You know, like wash their hands and other infectious disease control measures.
Wow! I see you’re not a fan of Dale Carnegie.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:12 AM
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Agree and I'll be adding the RSV vaccine also.
You might want to rethink the RSV vaccine which was rushed through clinical trials and had serious problems with it. Of course, they rolled it out anyway.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:14 AM
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I just got my flu shot today at Walgreens. Some will say it is too early, but I always get it when I can.
Yes, you got it way too early. Any medical professional will tell you it’s only good for about six months whereas the flu season lasts until late spring.
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:41 AM
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Flues like cold dry weather, so all things being equal, the flu season is longer in the northern states. That being said, Florida is such a huge travel destination between late fall and early spring that Floridians are being bombarded with the flu throughout that window by people traveling there from cooler climates.
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I just got my flu shot today at Walgreens. Some will say it is too early, but I always get it when I can.

GOOD Luck I stopepd getting the flu shot as it caused to many reactions......never again
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:09 AM
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I'm not quite sure how to take the tone of that post. Are you asking me or telling me about virology? If you're asking, it's quite a long reply. If you think you are telling me, well.......Res ipsa loquitur. And some of those "facts" are accurate, some aren't.
When I worked in the ER back in 2009 for 2 years it is only a infant virus I dont buy into that it also is for adults its another scam to put crap in your body
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:11 AM
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You might want to rethink the RSV vaccine which was rushed through clinical trials and had serious problems with it. Of course, they rolled it out anyway.
Probably as bad as the covid jab which i never got the shot nor did i get covid cornovirus is cold people WAKE up to your lying government they want you all dead asap
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:13 AM
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Well there is this from the horses mouth relative to flu shots.

mRNA Flu Vaccine Possibilities | Pfizer

Not that they would tell the average person it is in the flu shot.

My mom had a very bad reaction to her last one for the first time ever (84 yrs young and double jabbed). Last year she ended up in the hospital because of the flu shot - heart related on a person with zero heart conditions. She saw her "new" cardiologist for a few visists post hospital. Had tests done and now a year later the cardiologist released her from his care, thank goodness. She will not be getting a flu shot anymore.

No thank you from one Villager to another. Soylent Green comes to mind.
Ya its whats in these jabs that they wont tell you NO shots for me ever anymore I quit the flu one after I got sick form it within a few hours
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:19 AM
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You might want to rethink the RSV vaccine which was rushed through clinical trials and had serious problems with it. Of course, they rolled it out anyway.
I had no idea what RSV vaccines were, so I had to look up what it was for, and about the research.
Seems the major problems were way back in the 60's with early trials.
Those, and later problems are said to have been resolved, and latest trials seem to have a clean bill of health.
Does not appear to be some vaccine rushed out at all.
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