[airstreamingypsy]

Donna, It's loosen the reins, not reigns. You're welcome.

[pmken2]

Sumter County had 24 new cases between Fri and Sat. That is the largest number since the beginning of tracking it. Get real people, this is not the time to go crazy. These numbers need to go down and stay steady first.

[ithos]

We are 24 Trillion in debt. Trillions more in debt will be incurred if we keep a choke hold on the economy. This can only be sustained by printing more virtual money.

If we do not restart our economy soon, then the healthcare system may collapse anyway due to the most severe economic depression in our country's history.

90% of those hospitalized have underlying conditions. So if you are in an at risk category then by all means, continue to stay at home and practice extreme social distancing when you venture out.

The rest of the population needs to get back to work as soon as practicable (depending on the regions infection rates) to ensure that that Medicare and SS is sustained. It is pure delusion to think that the country is not taking extreme risks by these NATIONWIDE stay at home dictates.

"https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2020/04/15/coronavirus-risk-90-patients-had-underlying-conditions/2962721001/"

[MandoMan]

Horses have reins. Kings and queens have reigns. Governors of Florida have PR consultants and pollsters.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

That's a HUGE difference.
748 Floridians died in a single month, to COVID-19.
3082 Floridians died in an entire year, from the flu. And while flu season is a limited season, anyone can actually catch it any time of year.

If we were to compare, we have to do the math. Can't multiply 748 by 12 months because the flu _is_ seasonal, which means very small number dying from it outside the season.

So we'll divide the flu numbers by 12 to get a monthly average.

3082/12=256

So - the flu's monthly average death rate is 256.

Compare with COVID's average death rate of 748.

That's juuuust slightly lower than 150% higher death rate for COVID-19.

You cannot divide by 12 since the flu season typical ends in mid February and starts up again in mid October. 2018 is the only yearly data available and that was a fairly mild flu season. So, the over 3,000 flu deaths generally occurred within a 4 to 5 month time frame. Divide by 5 and you get 600 deaths on average. The Wuhan virus data is actually the total cases from January to date, so let's say 4 months divided into 748 gives an average of 187 deaths per month.

Now, we both know that you can't really look at a monthly average since there are spikes in both diseases during the active period. My point is, it is too early to determine the true scope of this virus versus the flu.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

Horses have reins. Kings and queens have reigns. Governors of Florida have PR consultants and pollsters.

And (Oh never mind....it would get this thread closed)

[ficoguy]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Most of us Probably think we will ever get back to life we knew before. IMO first of MAY time to start opening up outdoor activities with restrictions. Squares probably need to stay closed for month or two more along with indoor crowd functions.

Can we really trust the government to "keep us safe"? It was afraid to close borders to China for fear of angering the all powerful Chinese Communists. it botched the CDC test kits, it gave away all our stockpiles of PPE for Ebola, SARS, H1N1, etc.
If the people come out and protest, will the government fire upon and kill US citizens?
All we want to do is go back to work, to church and sit out in the sun. The only protection the government can provide is more "stay at home"? If we don't get back to normal, then this will be the new normal - basically living under martial law.

[Bill1701]

I agree. For all of you Villagers who want everything to stay shut down for months, are you willing to give your retirement income to a family trying to make ends meet? I can tell you that someone trying to decide to pay the rent or utilities, but can't afford both, is not thinking about some oldster in The Villages getting sick. The rest of the world is more important than what happens here.

[Joorn59]

Originally Posted by DianeM

Absolutely! No Question! Just as soon as he considers me.

The opening schedule is gradual and well thought out. Two weeks of little to no cases, then Phase 1 for two weeks which is social distancing and no gatherings of more than ten. Phase 2 is also two weeks and opens a few more things but keeps the same distancing. Phase 3 is pretty much opens everything I believe. Any significant increases in cases brings you back to current regulations. No one is forced to go out and these phases encompass approximately six weeks which is June.

It’ll be a month when new cases pop up. We’re only testing symptomatic cases.
To safely open anything we need random sampling.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by DianeM

Absolutely! No Question! Just as soon as he considers me.

The opening schedule is gradual and well thought out. Two weeks of little to no cases, then Phase 1 for two weeks which is social distancing and no gatherings of more than ten. Phase 2 is also two weeks and opens a few more things but keeps the same distancing. Phase 3 is pretty much opens everything I believe. Any significant increases in cases brings you back to current regulations. No one is forced to go out and these phases encompass approximately six weeks which is June.

Someone has to consider the other one first. Maybe your neighbor will never consider you. Does that give us the right to not consider them. WWJD?

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

Horses have reins. Kings and queens have reigns. Governors of Florida have PR consultants and pollsters.

Governors in Florida also have a substantially lower death rate per 100k inhabitants than other states.

States with highest death rate per 100k

[miharris]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

That's a HUGE difference.
748 Floridians died in a single month, to COVID-19.
3082 Floridians died in an entire year, from the flu. And while flu season is a limited season, anyone can actually catch it any time of year.

If we were to compare, we have to do the math. Can't multiply 748 by 12 months because the flu _is_ seasonal, which means very small number dying from it outside the season.

So we'll divide the flu numbers by 12 to get a monthly average.

3082/12=256

So - the flu's monthly average death rate is 256.

Compare with COVID's average death rate of 748.

That's juuuust slightly lower than 150% higher death rate for COVID-19.

According to the CDC, the average flu season lasts for about 16 weeks, or 4 months, when you see about 80% of the fatalities. So 80% of 3082 is 2456. Divided by 4 months is 616, so pretty close even without comparing peak to peak levels. Also the 748 number you are using is total deaths in the state so far, not a monthly number.

[donassaid]

Why don't we just stay in our homes the rest of this year while our country and economy go the route of Venezuela? We have been sold a bill of goods. 2.2 million deaths? I think not. 200,000 deaths? Not hardly. We can not last another 30 days of our economy being shut down or do you think stimulus money grows on trees?

[cb1972]

Through this experience I have learned that the medical professionals have their job to do which is advise us of the risks.They will always be on the side of preserving health and life as they should, its their job, their oath. But the reality is we can't tank our economy, or take away the financial future of our children. Like him or not our President from the beginning has been pushing us to get back to work . In my opinion this should be our number one priority. Yes we should do it safely , social distancing , masks, no large gatherings etc.. There will be risks but we need to start gaining momentum as soon as possible.

[jackandbeth]

We all just jumped out of an airplane at 1300 feet. Some of us got our chute lines tangled but thankfully got them straightened out, some of us our chutes failed to open ... And now you want me to take my chute off because we are almost there- 400 feet above the ground. I will wait until I've safely landed.
God bless you all. Stay Happy and Healthy, Beth