[Villages PL]

There are lots of regions or countries in the world that do better than the Mediterranean. I don't have any statistics on the vegan diet but I can compare the Okinawan diet with Italy, Greece, and the United States. The following was provided by the World Health Organization and Japan Ministry of Health and Welfare....1996.

Death Rates Per 100,000 People For Coronary Heart Disease:

Location:.....................Deaths Per Year............Eating Pattern

Okinawa................................18......... .............East-West fusion

Italy......................................55..... ................Mediterranean

Greece...................................55....... ...............Mediterranean

United States.........................100................ ......American


Stroke:

Okinawa.................................35

Italy.......................................49

Greece....................................109


Cancer:

Okinawa...................................97

Italy.........................................135

Greece......................................109


Deaths From All Causes:

Okinawa...................................335

Italy........................................459

Greece.....................................449

Life expectancy(1996)

Okinawa......................81.2

Italy............................78.3

Greece.........................78.1

[Barefoot]

We've talked in other threads about the Mediterranean diet. Could you please briefly explain the basics of the Okinawa diet?

[graciegirl]

You are quoting statistics that are sixteen years old?

Here is a link to Okinawan diet. Surprised to find carbs, pork. fish and eggs.

Okinawa diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Uptown Girl]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Surprised to find carbs, pork. fish and eggs.

Oh my stars and garters!


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[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

We've talked in other threads about the Mediterranean diet. Could you please briefly explain the basics of the Okinawa diet?

I'll be glad to get the information but I don't have it with me at the moment. Perhaps tomorrow.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You are quoting statistics that are sixteen years old?

Here is a link to Okinawan diet. Surprised to find carbs, pork. fish and eggs.

Okinawa diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, the book came out in 2001. It may have been updated in 2007. I'll have to check on it. However, regardless of how old it is, it gives the blueprint of how to achieve great health and longevity. The Okinawan elders were the healthiest and longest lived people in the world. They had more centenarians per 100,000 population than anywhere else on earth. The authors stated that younger Okinawans were slowly changing for the worse. And, at the time the book was written, it was to document and give credit to the Okinawan elders. It was a 25 year study. The point was to document it, otherwise it would be lost forever. So it's a snapshot in time that anyone can benifit from.

Yes, they eat some animal protein but it only adds up to about 14% of their total diet, by weight. For example, they typically would eat 2 to 3 eggs per week. The eggs would come from their own chickens that were free roaming. When their chickens (perhaps 3 or 4 per family) stopped laying eggs, they would eat those chickens (high in omega 3). It wouldn't be very much. I'll put this in better perspective at some later time. Perhaps tomorrow.

The problem is that we live in a culture where anything that tastes good would be overconsumed. In the U.S., if you tell people that it's okay to eat 2 or 3 eggs per week, they will eat a dozen or more. Eggs taste so good that it would be very difficult not to eat more. So, for many people, it might be better to abstain alltogether.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl

Oh my stars and garters!


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Not only do they eat very little animal protein, but it's not grain fed beef, chicken, pork and fish. All animal protein is raised naturally. It's all free range and fish from the ocean. And, as far as I know, they don't eat beef.

All I'm saying is that it's a lot better than the Mediterannean diet. And a heck of a lot better than the American diet. And the vegan diet may likely be the best of all but I don't have the statistics on it to make a direct comparrison.

But the book "The China Study" makes a pretty good case that the vegan diet is the best.

[Villages PL]

One other important thing about the Okinawan diet: Okinawan elders eat a low calorie natural diet and they stop eating when they are 80% full. It's the calorie restricted diet that the average American fears.

Personally, I eat low-calorie natural whole-foods but I can't quite figure out exactly how one would know when they have reached 80% full.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

One other important thing about the Okinawan diet: Okinawan elders eat a low calorie natural diet and they stop eating when they are 80% full. It's the calorie restricted diet that the average American fears. Personally, I eat low-calorie natural whole-foods but I can't quite figure out exactly how one would know when they have reached 80% full.

I think I read somewhere that the Okinawan Elders eat only seaweed. Or maybe I just made that up.

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I think I read somewhere that the Okinawan Elders eat only seaweed. Or maybe I just made that up.

Is that organic seaweed?

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by buzzy

Is that organic seaweed?

Organic and holistic seaweed!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Organic and holistic seaweed!

The Okinawa Diet Food Pyramid

A Guide to Daily Food Choices

[wendyquat]

To quote a famous person, "What difference does it make now"? Interesting information but I'm not sure, at our age, we would get a lot more longevity by even a severe diet alteration!

[Golfingnut]

American Diet? We have a lot more bad habits in America to kill us rather than our diet. Our golf carts and round-a-bouts are more dangerous than a cheese burger.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

To quote a famous person, "What difference does it make now"? Interesting information but I'm not sure, at our age, we would get a lot more longevity by even a severe diet alteration!

But how will U know?

It's kinda simple really, take your current health reports blood work, ultra sounds, carotid duplex what ever you have now, especially tests that show plaque build up or blockages in your arteries.

Change your diet (without cheating for 3 or 6 months, 6 is a better barometer) redo your blood work and any of the tests that showed issues again.
If there's no improvement eat all the dead animals you can & drink like hell.

Say Jimbo was wrong....simple right?

Ps: I betcha I'm going to see a leaner healthier person with more energy.

I'm not referring to any diet other than vegan no oils.