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We can stop a lot of the Medicare fraud ourselves by asking questions......
Prove it!!!!
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sunnyatlast, you posted a link that stated doctors at The Villages Health Clinics will be paid generous salaries so they won't have to rush. They can spend as much time as they need to help a patient. Where does the money come from to pay generous salaries? (And I believe at the time that link was written, no one knew that there would be extensive use of Physician's Assistants.)

Also, no one knew that the clinics would end up serving mostly HMO patients. How does that figure into the equation? Are doctors getting generous salaries from an unknown source or are they getting money from Medicare and the HMO?

Anyway, If Medicare pays less and less for doctor-visits and procedures, and HMOs are not known to be generous with their payments, where are the generous salaries coming from?

I don't think you should suggest that The Villages Clinics have the solution to Florida's healthcare problems because the clinics represent an on-going experiment. The verdict isn't in yet.
Bump: I'm still wondering where the generous salaries are coming from, especially due to the fact that we have been told that the clinic doctors only take on about half as many patients as other doctors need to to make a living.
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Bump: I'm still wondering where the generous salaries are coming from, especially due to the fact that we have been told that the clinic doctors only take on about half as many patients as other doctors need to to make a living.
How do you know their salaries are generous? If you do know, what are they?
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Prove it!!!!
That's my line.

And you are conveniently ignoring answering the people who called your post out that stated doctors will walk out on you if you ask questions by trying to divert the conversation on to generous salaries for TV doctors.

I think enough of us have shown that doctors do not walk out on you for asking questions.
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Some Specialists do have a "god" complex. I haven't noticed it in family doctors.

Some of them are pretty special to us. We call this one St. Randy at our house and bless him every time we look at Helene. Dr. David Randall Drosick M.D. Oncologist from Cincinnati.

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He looks like a very compassionate man, Gracie. Maybe an angel as well as a saint!
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Bump: I'm still wondering where the generous salaries are coming from, especially due to the fact that we have been told that the clinic doctors only take on about half as many patients as other doctors need to to make a living.

My son has a private practice and was considering selling. He interviewed with TV and said there was no way the practice could be profitable unless someone was subsidizing the salaries. I guess that mean old greedy developer must be subsidizing the salaries.
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My son has a private practice and was considering selling. He interviewed with TV and said there was no way the practice could be profitable unless someone was subsidizing the salaries. I guess that mean old greedy developer must be subsidizing the salaries.
You got it!
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How do you know their salaries are generous? If you do know, what are they?
I guess you didn't read my post very carefully and you didn't read the link provided by sunnyatlast. It was his link that stated "generous salaries".
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That's my line.

And you are conveniently ignoring answering the people who called your post out that stated doctors will walk out on you if you ask questions by trying to divert the conversation on to generous salaries for TV doctors.

I think enough of us have shown that doctors do not walk out on you for asking questions.
My point is: Why should you ask me to prove my statements when you were the first to make an unproved statement?
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I guess you didn't read my post very carefully and you didn't read the link provided by sunnyatlast. It was his link that stated "generous salaries".
I guess you didn't read your own post. The word generous was in your post and not footnoted, if you wish to get technical about things.
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My son has a private practice and was considering selling. He interviewed with TV and said there was no way the practice could be profitable unless someone was subsidizing the salaries. I guess that mean old greedy developer must be subsidizing the salaries.
The Villages Clinics was said to be a model that the rest of the nation might eventually follow. But if they can only succeed by being subsidized, perhaps it means this new revolutionary health care system has failed. It can't stand on its own merits, at least not yet. So we have to wonder if it ever will. As I said before, "The verdict isn't in yet."
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Prove it!!!!
Villages Place - two small incidents where my questioning stopped billing Medicare for unnecessary services. My mother is 95 years old and has severe dementia. She cannot follow a conversation, or barely ask a question. She repeats the same things over and over and is even losing grasp of those repetitive statements. Somehow an occupational therapist and a psychiatrist were ordered for visits. What on earth could that possibly do for her. An occupational therapist could show her how to brush her hair and she would immediately forget what she learned. And a psychiatrist would simply try and talk to her, bill for his 30 minutes and be on with it.

So my stepping in and questioning these services, and obviously refusing them, stopped the medicare fraud that was about to be perpetuated. If I had taken the attitude, oh well, she's not paying for it, that could have denied someone else down the line that could actually benefit from these services.
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I guess you didn't read your own post. The word generous was in your post and not footnoted, if you wish to get technical about things.
I just went back and read it again and it's plain to see that I am referring to his link that stated "generous salaries". I stated that very clearly in the very first sentence. Do you expect me to keep restating it?
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The Villages Clinics was said to be a model that the rest of the nation might eventually follow. But if they can only succeed by being subsidized, perhaps it means this new revolutionary health care system has failed. It seems it can't stand on its own merits, at least not yet. So we have to wonder if it ever will. As I said before, "The verdict isn't in yet."
Bump: Great post VPL!!!

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