[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by Bucco

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media...mixed-message/

Try reading from your article:

"Fox News host Sean Hannity has been on something of a vaccine roller coaster. He said in January that he was “beginning to have doubts” about getting a shot, despite telling friends he was planning to. On his radio show last month, he said he was “not anti-vaccine” but did not plan to reveal whether he eventually got one.

“It’s none of your business,” Hannity said. “I probably would have told people my decision until everyone started demanding that I tell them what my decision is.” He said taking the vaccine “has got to be an individual decision” and encouraged his listeners to read about people who have had negative reactions to the vaccine. (He didn’t specify what they should read, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s literature makes clear that severe side effects to the vaccine are rare.)

After going back and forth for weeks, Hannity ultimately said he would get a shot."

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

People have been warned I feel in certain areas not getting the Covid 19 vaccine is a political statement or maybe ignorance. Now we might see natural selection rather than evolution.

We seem to need or want bad news. The OP is from MISSOURI. As far as Covid 19 vaccine. Perhaps yet another example of our current views. People with no medical knowledge, read or hear something and decide not to get a vaccine. Polio, tuberculosis
were virtually wiped out with vaccines.

I am in the old group with other medical issues. I got the shot. As far as natural selection most dare not go down that path but Covid 19 is killing older weaker people.
The black plague which killed half the people in Europe and changed history killed all age groups. Natural selection? We use medical practice to prevent natural selection.
Far easier to say when it is not you or anyone you care about. I for one dare to ask why we say you should put down a pet who is in pain, to do otherwise many would say you are evil. Yet, it is illegal to do the same for yourself or any human etc of course the government sends people to war and criminals to the death penalty. I have far more questions than answers.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Try reading from your article:

"Fox News host Sean Hannity has been on something of a vaccine roller coaster. He said in January that he was “beginning to have doubts” about getting a shot, despite telling friends he was planning to. On his radio show last month, he said he was “not anti-vaccine” but did not plan to reveal whether he eventually got one.

“It’s none of your business,” Hannity said. “I probably would have told people my decision until everyone started demanding that I tell them what my decision is.” He said taking the vaccine “has got to be an individual decision” and encouraged his listeners to read about people who have had negative reactions to the vaccine. (He didn’t specify what they should read, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s literature makes clear that severe side effects to the vaccine are rare.)

After going back and forth for weeks, Hannity ultimately said he would get a shot."

Oh, I read it, and posted the link to make a point.

Mixed messages galore from that area. Hope you are aware of other comments he has made, etc. he gives av free ride to those who attack personally those favoring the vaccine.

As I said it another post, I watched three folks...morning show..two guys and a gal who were having fun at the expense of Faucci, and others who are literally begging people to get vaccinated. They seemed to enjoy the character assassination.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by maggie1

I'm sure we'd all be interested in where you obtained your data in order to make such a statement. Please advise.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...as+covid+death

The same thing (reporting MVA deaths as covid deaths) was happening in other states, as well... There is a video from the Department of health in (I think Colorado) saying the same thing Desantis was questioning. That MVA were counted as Covid deaths if they tested positive. Same with shooting, etc...

CDPHE explains how it classifies COVID-19 deaths - YouTube

Add to that, hospice patients, with Stage IV Cancer, sent to hospice to be kept comfortable as the die, were also counted as Covid deaths if they tested positive post mortem...

Now, I'm not saying that thousands and thousands didn't die of Covid. Just that it appears the numbers were inflated in many cases...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Lizziemay

I wonder how many people died in car accidents that tested positive for covid ? Do you really think the medical community is testing dead people ?

Yes, they are...

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

. I’ve not seen that but have seen many in there promote the vaccine such as Harris, Faulkner, Perino, Hume, and many others. A difference of opinion exists throughout the country and it’s a freedom of choice to get vaccinated or not.

With a large audience comes responsibility

[justjim]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...as+covid+death

The same thing (reporting MVA deaths as covid deaths) was happening in other states, as well... There is a video from the Department of health in (I think Colorado) saying the same thing Desantis was questioning. That MVA were counted as Covid deaths if they tested positive. Same with shooting, etc...

CDPHE explains how it classifies COVID-19 deaths - YouTube

Add to that, hospice patients, with Stage IV Cancer, sent to hospice to be kept comfortable as the die, were also counted as Covid deaths if they tested positive post mortem...

Now, I'm not saying that thousands and thousands didn't die of Covid. Just that it appears the numbers were inflated in many cases...

With reporting there are always some mistakes. Some believe there were a number who died from Covid even before they started testing. The point is that thousands no doubt have died from this virus and the vaccine is keeping more thousands protected. If you are able medically please get the vaccine.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Try reading from your article:

"Fox News host Sean Hannity has been on something of a vaccine roller coaster. He said in January that he was “beginning to have doubts” about getting a shot, despite telling friends he was planning to. On his radio show last month, he said he was “not anti-vaccine” but did not plan to reveal whether he eventually got one.

“It’s none of your business,” Hannity said. “I probably would have told people my decision until everyone started demanding that I tell them what my decision is.” He said taking the vaccine “has got to be an individual decision” and encouraged his listeners to read about people who have had negative reactions to the vaccine. (He didn’t specify what they should read, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s literature makes clear that severe side effects to the vaccine are rare.)

After going back and forth for weeks, Hannity ultimately said he would get a shot."

I have no issue with any of his comments that you referenced. Many people have doubts about the vaccines and have gotten vaccinated in spite of those doubts. The vaccines still do not have FDA approval, the long term side effects are unknown, efficiencies are being questioned thus discussions of boosters, two vaccines were pulled off the market for a short time, and yes sadly some people have died from getting vaccinated. These are all facts that should be mentioned in discussions, and it’s a personal decision after listening to all the facts about vaccines as to someone’s choice to get vaccinated or not.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by Bucco

With a large audience comes responsibility

Agree, and that responsibility comes with presenting all the facts about the vaccines, not just cherry pick what suits one side of the debate. Different personalities on FOX have different feelings about the vaccines just like all Americans do, and all facts should be presented which is what newscasts are supposed to be about.

[justjim]

OP, we have good friends who live in Branson, Mo. They are sad because many of their neighbors have gotten Covid and not vaccinated. The vaccine was “pushed” through by a Republican President and “pushed” operationally by a Democrat President. It’s proven affective. What the hell else is there to care or argue about? It’s just smart and wise to get vaccinated unless you have some medical reason that would prohibit you.

[Swoop]

Every day there are 1,300 smoking related deaths. Every day. That’s 475,000 deaths per year. Not just in 2020, EVERY year. Where is the news media outrage? How about a door to door campaign to stop smoking? Fear sells. Covid generates fear. Hurricanes generate fear. Turn off your TV’s - stop being sheep and listening to the news media cry wolf…

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

I have no issue with any of his comments that you referenced. Many people have doubts about the vaccines and have gotten vaccinated in spite of those doubts. The vaccines still do not have FDA approval, the long term side effects are unknown, efficiencies are being questioned thus discussions of boosters, two vaccines were pulled off the market for a short time, and yes sadly some people have died from getting vaccinated. These are all facts that should be mentioned in discussions, and it’s a personal decision after listening to all the facts about vaccines as to someone’s choice to get vaccinated or not.

Agree.

[Altavia]

Children, who can't get vaccinated, are dying because the adults around then refuse to be vaccinated.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

And just like many other supposed Covid deaths, many of those actually died of other causes! The national number is totally bogus

That is an untrue rationalization. Maybe change the TV channel that brings that information.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Another example of the media using a small sample set and blowing it out of proportion. Currently, the 7 day average Covid death rate in the US is 166. That means you are 2.5 times more likely to die in an accident than you would be to die from Covid. So it’s a good thing that you stayed locked down during that violent hurricane, because the likelihood of being killed by flying debris was higher than dying from Covid...

Smart people CAN die in an accident. Smart people do NOT die from CV because they have been vaccinated. One death is mostly unavoidable and the other is completely avoidable.