[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Then what do YOU think it is????? Remember---there is absolutely no medical reason to wear a mask when cycling alone, not even at the height of the pandemic, so give me a alternative reason that makes sense.

"Virtue Signaling"...

I had a patient in my office, a few weeks ago, well after MD and DC had started opening up that was wearing two masks.

I asked him if he had been vaccinated (he had), and why he was still wearing two masks.

He went on and on that he wanted to show others that they were foolish if they didn't do the same. I asked, "What about the experts who now say it's unnecessary?" No change in his opinion. He simply wanted to show others his superiority by wearing two masks. He also wanted to "shame others" into doing the same. Yes, he actually said that...

Then, he started in that he wanted the government to develop an app that would alert others if they were near anyone who had not been vaccinated. He had no concept of privacy, no concern for HIPAA regulations. "Just change them" was his solution...

When I asked him, "What about those without a smart phone?", he said "they should be forced to get one, and that the government should issue them if they couldn't afford one"...

Hell, half of my patients can barely use a regular cell phone (my patient population skews much older), so a smart phone is off the table for many of them...

[Becca9800]

[QUOTE=JMintzer;1970870]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

"Virtue Signaling"...

I had a patient in my office, a few weeks ago, well after MD and DC had started opening up that was wearing two masks.

I asked him if he had been vaccinated (he had), and why he was still wearing two masks.

He went on and on that he wanted to show others that they were foolish if they didn't do the same. I asked, "What about the experts who now say it's unnecessary?" No change in his opinion. He simply wanted to show others his superiority by wearing two masks. He also wanted to "shame others" into doing the same. Yes, he actually said that...

Then, he started in that he wanted the government to develop an app that would alert others if they were near anyone who had not been vaccinated. He had no concept of privacy, no concern for HIPAA regulations. "Just change them" was his solution...

When I asked him, "What about those without a smart phone?", he said "they should be forced to get one, and that the government should issue them if they couldn't afford one"...

Hell, half of my patients can barely use a regular cell phone (my patient population skews much older), so a smart phone is off the table for many of them...

Umm, Firstly, you need to fix your quote box there (#76), it's showing that GE's quote was made by me. Secondly, any discussion about why/why not vaccinate is simply lost on each other. "They" aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change their's. So I try really really hard not to jump into those discussions. Instead, I laugh at the fools who think the vaccine will protect them, even when after being vaccinated they still contract and still pass the bug. When after being vaccinated, they're told to still mask up, still social distance, and get in line for a third jab. I'm kidding! Kind of. But not really. I don't laugh at them. Point being, you do you and let me do me. Why can't "they" just get that?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

Umm, Firstly, you need to fix your quote box there (#76), it's showing that GE's quote was made by me. Secondly, any discussion about why/why not vaccinate is simply lost on each other. "They" aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change their's. So I try really really hard not to jump into those discussions. Instead, I laugh at the fools who think the vaccine will protect them, even when after being vaccinated they still contract and still pass the bug. When after being vaccinated, they're told to still mask up, still social distance, and get in line for a third jab. I'm kidding! Kind of. But not really. I don't laugh at them. Point being, you do you and let me do me. Why can't "they" just get that?

Firstly, Done and done...

Secondly, I agree. Getting vaccinated or not is a personal decision. I may disagree with said decision, but it's not my decision to make for anyone else...

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

People have been warned I feel in certain areas not getting the Covid 19 vaccine is a political statement or maybe ignorance. Now we might see natural selection rather than evolution.

Yep. Its usually ignorance and the “entitled” me. “You cant tell me what to do” attitude. Sooooo, I hope you have a plot picked out.
Besides, no need to keep posting stats. Who cares? Get vaccinated and hope for the best. Whether there are 5,000 cases or 1, whats the difference. Any of it could be you

[scottiesrgreat@gmail.com]

Oh goodness - these posts will never end. Live life - spread happiness and hope - accept the fact that you and your loved ones will eventually die (most have experienced this, are experiencing it, will experience it). Ask anyone on their death bed - in retrospect would they spend their time Googling and Regurgitating crap from internet searches - or spend time with friends and family, pets - smiling, laughing and just plain being happy and hopeful? Go out there and enjoy what is available - exude happiness and encouragement - yes, also take time to grieve when needed (it is part of life that no one can escape) - be there for those that need a simple smile. Life is so short (with Covid or not). I am going to enjoy this sunny day - blue sky - and smile at others as I pass them on my walk!

[Snprentice]

Can anyone believe these stats or is it a scare tactic? Not sure any reports can be trusted!

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Yep. Its usually ignorance and the “entitled” me. “You cant tell me what to do” attitude. Sooooo, I hope you have a plot picked out.
Besides, no need to keep posting stats. Who cares? Get vaccinated and hope for the best. Whether there are 5,000 cases or 1, whats the difference. Any of it could be you

Based on your logic, if you drive a car, you had better have your plot picked out…
And don’t let those nasty statistics effect your thinking…
Speaking of “ignorance” can you tell me what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be??? You can’t and neither can anyone else…

[virtualcynthia]

US COVID-19 cases and deaths by state | USAFacts

National stats. Unfortunately, Florida is usually in the top three. Last 7 day average we were #1 for cases and #2 for deaths.

[Ptmckiou]

Originally Posted by davephan

I’ve also heard from medical doctors that wearing cloth masks instead of tight fitting N95 masks is equivalent to trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence. I think a lot of the mask wearing is infective and is mostly a “feel good” thing to do that really doesn’t work. Much of the mask wearing is probably a political statement, or confusion that wearing the masks actually makes a difference when it doesn’t make a difference.

After 18 months of continued CDC medical advice it’s disheartening to see this continued misunderstanding. From day one of pandemic, the CDC has explained that wearing a cloth mask is NOT to protect yourself, but to protect others from you. The Virus doesn’t move through the air, but moves in your spittle through the air. It rides on spit and the reason they tried to get everyone to wear masks is because that is the only way it works. They couldn’t have the public wear N95, because those masks that actually do protect you, needed to be given to the medical community. Thereby, wearing loose cloth masks was the alternative which kept your spit from reaching within six feet to infect another person. However, if the other person refused to wear a cloth mask, then their spittle could go right through your lose cloth mask (if within six feet). Now maybe you understand why it was important for ALL to wear masks when we were at the peak of the pandemic. Thankfully, most are vaccinated and it’s behind us, but one doesn’t vaccinate then you may suffer the consequence. Personally, I like the guarantee I won’t die of COVID-19 because of being vaccinated. The vaccine technology was under development for 10 years, and can be applied to most any virus now that comes along. It’s like inventing the wheel, when there was no wheel. Game changer.

[Ptmckiou]

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Originally Posted by Swoop

Speaking of “ignorance” can you tell me what the long term effects of mRNA vaccines will be??? You can’t and neither can anyone else…

The mRNA technology has been in development for over 10 years and does not change YOUR DNA. That is misinformation. This technology can now be applied to most any virus, not just COVID. I know one long term effect will be not getting a bad case of COVID, long haul symptoms, or death from COVID. At our age, the chance of those things happening far out weight, the vaccine minor possibilities. So..long term effect is no debilitating virus guaranteed. I guess those first developmental vaccines many decades ago for polio and the like scared people too. Nevertheless, I trust science much more than the disinfo campaign machines out there.

[Mohawksin]

Originally Posted by maggie1

I'm sure we'd all be interested in where you obtained your data in order to make such a statement. Please advise.

Enter this;

illinois definition of covid death video

into the youtube search bar

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Ptmckiou

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The mRNA technology has been in development for over 10 years and does not change YOUR DNA. That is misinformation. This technology can now be applied to most any virus, not just COVID. I know one long term effect will be not getting a bad case of COVID, long haul symptoms, or death from COVID. At our age, the chance of those things happening far out weight, the vaccine minor possibilities. So..long term effect is no debilitating virus guaranteed. I guess those first developmental vaccines many decades ago for polio and the like scared people too. Nevertheless, I trust science much more than the disinfo campaign machines out there.

The mRNA delivery system has never had any long term effect studies done. That is a fact. No one has any idea how mRNA vaccines will impact your immune system over time. They certainly are safe in the short term. But long term - absolutely no one knows…

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by Swoop

...you are 2.5 times more likely to die in an accident than you would be to die from Covid. So it’s a good thing that you stayed locked down during that violent hurricane, because the likelihood of being killed by flying debris was higher than dying from Covid...

Originally Posted by Swoop

Every day there are 1,300 smoking related deaths. Every day. That’s 475,000 deaths per year. Not just in 2020, EVERY year. Where is the news media outrage? How about a door to door campaign to stop smoking? Fear sells. Covid generates fear. Hurricanes generate fear. Turn off your TV’s - stop being sheep and listening to the news media cry wolf…

This goofball argument again?? It has probably been said dozens, or even hundreds, of times here already but smoking, car accidents, hurricanes, etc. are NOT contagious. There are no vaccines for these causes of death, none of them can mutate to potentially become more transmissible or virulent. Total apples/oranges comparisons.
You know what else sells? The outrage, fear & conspiracy theories peddled on opinion-based entertainment. Talk about sheep...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by virtualcynthia

US COVID-19 cases and deaths by state | USAFacts

National stats. Unfortunately, Florida is usually in the top three. Last 7 day average we were #1 for cases and #2 for deaths.

Also in the top three in population, so...

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

There are allot of die hards out there who don't want the shot bc the dems have an agenda and will do anything and everything not to side with them.... Trump and his clorox drinking ways need not come into play what's so ever.

1. I don't believe you give people any credit for the ability to think for themselves. Instead, you choose to believe they're so politically motivated they'd risk their lives. To me, that reasoning seems too absurd to be believed.
2.