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Old 03-03-2020, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown View Post
Date: February 26, 2020 at 2:35:50 PM EST
Subject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemic.

Dear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.

The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.

Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:

1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!

What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:

1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.

Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.

2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.

3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.

4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.

I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.

I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us!


James Robb, MD FCAP
There seem to be a fair number of cautions regarding zinc use, side effects,etc.
Could you comment on lozenges and recommended use?
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Old 03-03-2020, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
Seems a lot of trouble for what both our President and Vice President says is very low risk.
Just an overblown hoax
Old 03-03-2020, 03:40 PM
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1. I am washing my hands like I have to put contacts in and I just ate crawfish.
2. I quit popping bubble wrap because the air in them is from China.
What am I supposed to call my Plantation Shutters now?
Old 03-03-2020, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix View Post
1. I am washing my hands like I have to put contacts in and I just ate crawfish.
2. I quit popping bubble wrap because the air in them is from China.
I just saw that on one of my Louisiana cousin's...Facebook page.

I sure hope...we're not related.

Old 03-03-2020, 08:06 PM
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Thank you OP for a well thought out and helpful post. Many of the suggestions in your post are not hard to do. With the new information we have today about what is happening in the US with this virus, a bit of care is prudent.
Old 03-04-2020, 05:58 AM
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Thank you, Dr Robb, that is the best and most helpful advice I have read for lay people in preventing almost any type of viral infection!
Kudos to you for taking the time to help others stay well... and help keep us well😊
Old 03-04-2020, 05:58 AM
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I would be cautious still. These are good practices for any flu season.
Old 03-04-2020, 06:12 AM
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Default coronavirsu

For the past couple of years, whenever I am in a public restroom with a door, I grab a paper towel and open the door with the paper towel, then discard it. In case they use air dryers, I carry a couple of kleenexes and open it that way.
Old 03-04-2020, 06:59 AM
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So basically this is to be treated as the same as the FLU. Well we have been thru swine flu, bird flu and others. Treat it the same and just be careful.
Old 03-04-2020, 07:05 AM
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Thank you for sharing!
Old 03-04-2020, 07:06 AM
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A public health issue like the Coronavirus should unite political leaders and the media behind helping Americans stay safe and informed. Unfortunately, “many members of our corporate press only see the public health crisis as another opportunity to attack the president.” Madeline Osburn sets the record straight in The Federalist.
Old 03-04-2020, 07:28 AM
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Good reminders. Thank you
Old 03-04-2020, 07:32 AM
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Wow, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts/knowledge on this subject!
Old 03-04-2020, 07:37 AM
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Thank you so much for sharing your information very helpful.
Old 03-04-2020, 07:45 AM
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If you want to believe that the president knows more than the CDC then that's your choice. However, it is more likely that the professor (above) is more knowledgeable.
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