[DonH57]

I remember Aaron Rogers being one of the quarterbacks stating he adds air to the balls verses others who remove the air. It's been done for years by many. Each quarterback has their preferences. It's not old news

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by leej63

I wonder if anyone questioned other league quarterbacks as to what they have done in the past, I suspect this rule has never been enforced in the past. Why now?

Obviously was some sort of an issue or the NFL wouldn't have implemented a PSI rule. As to why now, cause someone whi, er complained.

[Indy-Guy]

Brady's suspension is coming soon!

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Obviously was some sort of an issue or the NFL wouldn't have implemented a PSI rule. As to why now, cause someone whi, er complained.

That's basically what it comes down to. It's like some of the other rules that are selectively reinforced in one game and never again the remainder of the season. If you watch a lot of football you'll see it happening.

[DougB]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Obviously was some sort of an issue or the NFL wouldn't have implemented a PSI rule. As to why now, cause someone whi, er complained.

I heard it was the same guy with the Tamarind Groves complaints.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy

Brady's suspension is coming soon!

Say it ain't so!

[kbace6]

Originally Posted by birdawg

So today we hear that the PATRIOTS were cheating so sad that they would go to this level to win.

All teams in every sport cheat. That's where game officials came from. It's just sad that it takes the NARCs of the NFL and its sore loser teams to turn on their own. Those teams (Indy & NYJ) that can't beat the Pats on the field try to take them down anyway they can after a whoopin'.

Blah blah blah...... Sore losers.

I hope the balls are so flat next year they have to throw them like a Frisbee.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by kbace6

All teams in every sport cheat. That's where game officials came from. It's just sad that it takes the NARCs of the NFL and its sore loser teams to turn on their own. Those teams (Indy & NYJ) that can't beat the Pats on the field try to take them down anyway they can after a whoopin'.

Blah blah blah...... Sore losers.

I hope the balls are so flat next year they have to throw them like a Frisbee.

My sentiments exactly. Wasn't it the Harbagh brothers that started this? Their teams can't beat the Pats on the field, so they start crying foul about anything. Next it will be Tom Brady has special cleats on his sneakers.

Brady will come back next year more determined than ever and on his way to superbowls number five, six, seven. He thrives on adversity and doesn't sit around boo-hooing. And his footballs will be the most inspected in the history of the sport.

[TrudyM]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

They didn't.

Actually they scored the same in both halves. 14 + 14 for 28 total. And all scores were PASS plays.

Just clarifying. Still don't think the balls were the difference. Seattle's pass play call at the end was the difference maker.

Face it our coach blew it with the final play and we lost. I don't know any 12th man who is making a fuss over the balls we are just disappointed with our coach. He did a dumb call and it cost us the game.

[villagerjack]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo..._693652_693666

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by TrudyM

Face it our coach blew it with the final play and we lost. I don't know any 12th man who is making a fuss over the balls we are just disappointed with our coach. He did a dumb call and it cost us the game.

You're talking about the wrong game again. The game in which the ball was found to be under inflated was the AFC Championship game against the Colts. The balls in the Super Bowl were fine.

And I agree, your coach made a horrendous call after and incredibly lucky catch and then our guy made a great play. But in his defense, the Patriots were all set up to defend against a run. It was first down and he figured that if he tried a pass play, it would open up the defense for a run on the next two plays. He didn't count on an undrafted rookie to make a spectacular interception.

That being said, with the success they were having running the ball, I would have run it three times.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by kbace6

All teams in every sport cheat. That's where game officials came from. It's just sad that it takes the NARCs of the NFL and its sore loser teams to turn on their own. Those teams (Indy & NYJ) that can't beat the Pats on the field try to take them down anyway they can after a whoopin'.

Blah blah blah...... Sore losers.

I hope the balls are so flat next year they have to throw them like a Frisbee.

"allteams in every sport cheat" I give thanks every day for these great Role Models. Is this what we teach our children? Because it has always been so, should we continue to tolerate, and laugh it off? b

[John_W]

Originally Posted by janmcn

My sentiments exactly. Wasn't it the Harbagh brothers that started this? Their teams can't beat the Pats on the field, so they start crying foul about anything. Next it will be Tom Brady has special cleats on his sneakers.

Jim Harbaugh in the NFC West, I don't remember the 49ers really playing the Pats in any big playoff or super bowl game. Besides, he's now the coach of a college team, Michigan.

His brother John Harbaugh, head coach of the Ravens, he's the one you must be referring to. However, it looks like you have missed out on some of the facts. Even though I saw everyone of these games, I looked up the info to make sure I didn't have selective memory. I think you'll find it's a good rivarly and is pretty even, especially considering the Pats usually have home field advantage.

1) In 2009 the Ravens beat the Pats in New England in a playoff game 33-14.

2) 2010 a regular season game, the Pats at home won 23-20 in a game that went to overtime.

3) 2011 playoff game, once again in New England, the final score Pats 23-20. It could of easily gone the other way when Ravens receiver Lee Evans dropped a sure touchdown in the endzone with only seconds left. Then with only time left for a field goal attempt, Billy Cundiff shanked a 32 yard field goal left that would of tied the score. Billy Cundiff now kicks for Cleveland.

4) 2012 regular season game played in Baltimore, the Ravens win 31-30. The Pats lead 30-21 in the 4th quarter. However in the 4th quarter Ravens receiver Torry Smith, whose brother had died just days earlier in a motorcycle accident, caught his second TD of the game and on the final play kicker Justin Tucker kicked a 27 yard field goal. Pats coach Bill Belichick charged onto the field to dispute the field goal and reached for a referee. He was fined $50,000 later that week.

5) 2013 playoff game against Pats, also played in New England, the Ravens win 28-13. It was the first time ever that Tom Brady lost a home game when leading at halftime. The Ravens would go on to beat the 49ers in Super Bowl XXXVII in a game played against his brother Jim Harbaugh. Maybe that's where you get the idea of a Harbaugh brother not beating the other coach. John Harbaugh had also beat his brother the year before on a Thanksgiving night game.

6) 2014 playoffs once again played in New England the Pat win 35-31. It was a game in which the Ravens had lead twice by 14 points. The Ravens with their final possession began marching down the field connecting on several short passes and with still a minute left in the game. Coordinator Gary Kubiak called for a deep pass into the endzone that was intercepted sealing the Pats victory. As the team prepares to go into the 2015 season, Torry Smith the intended receiver on the play and play caller Gary Kubiak are no longer with the Ravens.

The following week was the Pats playoff game against the Colts that involved the disputed footballs. The Pats would crush the Colts and go on to win the Super Bowl in a close game with the Seahawks.

[Bruiser1]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I like a good joke as much as anyone, so I laughed when the NFL released its long-awaited decision on "Deflategate," because it's funny.

Have we waited since January to find out today that maybe the NFL knows what happened, and maybe it doesn't? But we should be satisfied because the NFL is "at least generally aware" of what went on, which is the same silly standard the league is pinning on Tom Brady.

There are many things that I'm "generally aware of" that I really don't know much about. For example, the weather, and computers.

So I think the NFL owed Tom Brady a higher standard; say "beyond a reasonable doubt" or "preponderance of the evidence" before it judges him guilty.

Instead, the NFL convicts the Patriot's quarterback by concluding "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities..."

Well, that's just another way of the NFL saying, "we think he knew, but we can't prove it. And it's less probable that he wasn't aware."

Interestingly, the NFL trashed Tom Brady's reputation, but stopped short of painting the Patriots team and owner as "generally aware" of doing anything wrong.

Now, the NFL Commissioner says the league will see what steps to take next, including possible disciplinary action.

I think a fitting punishment would be to make everyone in NFL headquarters actually read the entire 243 page report, to see how uncertain it leaves us.

So they got "creative" with the rules against a cupcake opponent. 45-7 thanks for showing up (lack of ) Luck.

There is no way (NO WAY!) the commissioner will discipline His Buddy the owner of the Patriots (beside that he would sue the NFL back to the stone age). And NO WAY Brady will miss a REGULAR SEASON GAME!

I WAS SHOCKED (SHOCKED!!!) THE REPORT CAME UP AFTER THE DRAFT!

[John_W]

Originally Posted by Bruiser1

So they got "creative" with the rules against a cupcake opponent. 45-7 thanks for showing up (lack of ) Luck.

There is no way (NO WAY!) the commissioner will discipline His Buddy the owner of the Patriots (beside that he would sue the NFL back to the stone age). And NO WAY Brady will miss a REGULAR SEASON GAME!

I WAS SHOCKED (SHOCKED!!!) THE REPORT CAME UP AFTER THE DRAFT!

I disagree on this completely. Were talking integrity of the game, the same kind of problem that keeps Pete Rose out of the Hall. This is not off field, and the Pats are not immune, see post above Belichick fined $50,000 for touching a ref. I think it will be a 1 to 3 game suspension for Brady, a Brady fine of $100,000 and a Pats middle round draft pick. My only regret is that Brady will miss the opener against the Steelers, my team's biggest rival.