[Taltarzac725]

Villages sexcapade nets woman 180 days in jail - Daily Commercial: News

The sentence for Mrs. Kleem was today. Personally I agree with the prosecutor Tiny Smith that this was in a family public place. If they had been out on a golf course on a golf cart at 10:30 PM far from prying eyes, I would have expected the cops would just have told them to get dressed and move on. Families coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse might have seen them.

[The Mountaineer]

More important, I hope she gets help for her alcoholism. She has a sickness and needs to be treated for it. But, at 88, it's a long shot. It's a sad story. Not something to joke about.

[chuckinca]

If I was the prosecutor I would change my name.

.

[l2ridehd]

I am not so sure about this. For me, the only victims in this case were the two people engaged in the act and their families. No one was physically hurt, no property was destroyed.

We all hear so much about equality these days. Does the results of this crime match the impact of those who break and enter your homes? Not for me. And yet those folks get a fine, a slap on the wrist and maybe probation.

Should these two have gotten some type of fine or punishment? Yes, but based on other crimes and the punishment received, I think this was over kill.

[Bonanza]

The entire episode is tragic and very sad. It amazes me how some of the public actually got pleasure in previous threads, by making some pretty feelingless comments. While I do agree a penalty was justified, the penalty given does not fit the crime.

This woman needs help, big time, and unfortunately, putting her in jail isn't helping her at all.

BTW -- she is 68, not 88.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

I am not so sure about this. For me, the only victims in this case were the two people engaged in the act and their families. No one was physically hurt, no property was destroyed.

We all hear so much about equality these days. Does the results of this crime match the impact of those who break and enter your homes? Not for me. And yet those folks get a fine, a slap on the wrist and maybe probation.

Should these two have gotten some type of fine or punishment? Yes, but based on other crimes and the punishment received, I think this was over kill.

As always, I agree with you. She is one fortunate woman to have a husband to stand behind her and beside her. My prayers are for him, poor guy.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

I am not so sure about this. For me, the only victims in this case were the two people engaged in the act and their families. No one was physically hurt, no property was destroyed.

We all hear so much about equality these days. Does the results of this crime match the impact of those who break and enter your homes? Not for me. And yet those folks get a fine, a slap on the wrist and maybe probation.

Should these two have gotten some type of fine or punishment? Yes, but based on other crimes and the punishment received, I think this was over kill.

Not sure you can compare crimes and punishments like that. Some --like this one in a huge retirement community with many visiting grandkids in a public square at 10:30 PM at night. If this had been at 3:30 AM, it would probably be a very different sentence as no one but the Community Watch driver and some feral cats are around.

I do agree a sentence of alcoholic treatment would be better served but we do not know this woman's prior history of such treatments. Some people will not help themselves with respect to alcoholism. It does take a conscious effort to stop drinking which sometimes jail is the only solution to prevent more drinking.

[dirtbanker]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

I am not so sure about this. For me, the only victims in this case were the two people engaged in the act and their families. No one was physically hurt, no property was destroyed.

Thank goodness nobody was physically hurt, but as someone on here might have hinted; there was a good chance some family coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse could have been disturbed with seeing this act.

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

We all hear so much about equality these days.

I feel we hear so much about equality for certain groups of people these days, I try not to confuse that with equality for all.

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Does the results of this crime match the impact of those who break and enter your homes? Not for me. And yet those folks get a fine, a slap on the wrist and maybe probation.

Should these two have gotten some type of fine or punishment? Yes, but based on other crimes and the punishment received, I think this was over kill.

I agree that the punishment seemed harsh when compared to your description of what the burglar has gotten...My gut reaction is; she got a just sentence and the burglar did not get what he/she deserved. So why don't we focus and complain about the sentence being too light for the burglars instead?

[Bay Kid]

A big waste of tax dollars and jail space! Have them do community services, but don't put them in jail.

[perrjojo]

Just curious. Where does one serve their time for this sort of sentence? Never mind...I just reread the article and it says Sumter a County jail.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

In the article, her husband says that this is the first time that she's ever been in trouble. I understand that she had two recent DUIs. Is that not being in trouble?

Of course none of us who weren't there know exactly what happened, but I have to wonder if they gave the arresting officers a bad time. If so, that may have influenced the judge in terms of sentencing. And don't forget, she was given a break here but getting "concurrent" 180 day sentences for this and for the DUI. Does anyone know how much time she will actually spend in jail? Often entire sentences are not served out in these kind of cases.

As far as damage done, I agree that no one was hurt and no property was damaged, but I do feel that a lot of damage was done to the reputation of our wonderful community. Could that have possibly been a factor in the sentencing?

Of course she should get help for alcoholism. But having a disease does not excuse bad or illegal behavior. You can't go out and commit a crime and be let off easy just by saying, "I'm an alcoholic". In fact one of the things preached by AA is that you have to take responsibility for your own actions. In fact loved ones of alcoholics are also taught not to give alcoholics a break and to allow the the dignity of suffering the consequences of their actions. The sentence may be the best thing that ever happened to her.

[red tail]

it looks like a case of 'bible belt justice'...I agree with the poster that said this is overkill!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Please don't miss the point that this is a plea deal. She agreed to this sentence rather than face a full trial.

[red tail]

lets hope the judge doesn't get reelected. he is lacking in compassion.

[zonerboy]

Whew! I feel much safer now. Much less chance of seeing any exposed genitals in my wanderings about The Villages.
Wouldn't want any grand kids to be scarred for life by seeing human body parts.