Margaret "Peggy" Klemm gets 180 days. Margaret "Peggy" Klemm gets 180 days. - Page 3 - Talk of The Villages Florida

Margaret "Peggy" Klemm gets 180 days.

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #31  
Old 07-31-2014, 09:39 AM
perrjojo's Avatar
perrjojo perrjojo is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mission Hills
Posts: 2,294
Thanks: 226
Thanked 321 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2BNTV View Post
If I remember correctly, she was also arrested for a DUI, about two weeks prior to her sexcapade at the town square, and she was drunk again, to the point, where she could not be in control.

I think she may have had a lot of stress dealing with her very sick husband but she could have relieved her frustration, with a more constructive venue. At least, get a room.

She sure has revived the old rumor mill by letting people outside TV to think this is an orgy type place and giving some credence to the theory of spreading STD. That article failed to mention the spread of STD was no higher, than any other community in the USA, but that is was, an increased number.

I feel sorry for the shame the husband must be feeling, and what happens to his needing care, while she is serving her sentence. This has become a sad story for all those involved, who really need help, in whatever form that may take. IMHO
This biggest hurdle to Alcoholics is the enablers..... Those who continue to say he/she made a mistake. I am not without compassion for this family but being arrested twice in four days? I always say the first time we make a mistake. The second time we do it, it's a choice.
  #32  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:02 AM
Cajulian Cajulian is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 151
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zonerboy View Post
Whew! I feel much safer now. Much less chance of seeing any exposed genitals in my wanderings about The Villages.
Wouldn't want any grand kids to be scarred for life by seeing human body parts.
I feel so much safer now too!!!

What they did was inappropriate, but far from leaving anyone "Emotionally Scarred".

The punishment was definitely an overkill, considering the sentences that some real criminals get.
__________________
"I'm Outta Here ........ Gone Fishin or Bowlin"
  #33  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:03 AM
Chi-Town's Avatar
Chi-Town Chi-Town is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,506
Thanks: 192
Thanked 1,484 Times in 717 Posts
Default

She should have pleaded insanity. "I was just crazy about that boy!" should have been her defense.

(thanks to Cheech and Chong so I won't be accused of plagiarizing).
  #34  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:08 AM
billethkid's Avatar
billethkid billethkid is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 18,536
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4,871 Times in 1,420 Posts
Default



  #35  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:17 AM
MicheleE MicheleE is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Amelia
Posts: 168
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Alcoholism is not a choice. This women clearly needs rehab rather than jail. Hope she gets the help she needs and stops living on that merry-go-round.
  #36  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:22 AM
2BNTV's Avatar
2BNTV 2BNTV is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,711
Thanks: 1
Thanked 134 Times in 61 Posts
Default

Sorry but forgot to add, that I have known several people who got DUI's but they didn't travel down that road again as they learned their lesson. They only excuse Peggy can have had is............ fill in the blank.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Being totally drunk twice to have the police involved, indicated a serious emotional problem that she needs to get serious, about curing herself.

I agree with BTK. It's
__________________
"It doesn't cost "nuttin", to be nice". MOM

I just want to do the right thing! Uncle Joe, (my hero).
  #37  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:41 AM
coolkayaker1's Avatar
coolkayaker1 coolkayaker1 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Geneva, IL
Posts: 124
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I once walked around a large granite monument in a public park in Chicago at night. I was 25 years old. I saw--would have stepped on them if I kept walking--two adults, about my age, humping like earthworms after a rainstorm.

If I could only "unsee".
  #38  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:43 AM
cc1246 cc1246 is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Amelia
Posts: 27
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

It matter what the crime was, she broke the law and also her probation. I agree she needs help, but her family should have stepped up a long time ago and tried to help. Laws are not meant to be broken.
  #39  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:48 AM
Abster Abster is offline
Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 83
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl View Post
They could do worse. Lot of folks here who do not need to be criticized go to church and a lot who are far from perfect go too.

Tired of this anti-religious STUFF.
P.S. I don't go to church, but there isn't anything wrong with it and a whole lot right.

Pick on criminals and leave the church people alone.
Mam, Please!!! I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are yours.
  #40  
Old 07-31-2014, 10:52 AM
perrjojo's Avatar
perrjojo perrjojo is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mission Hills
Posts: 2,294
Thanks: 226
Thanked 321 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MicheleE View Post
Alcoholism is not a choice. This women clearly needs rehab rather than jail. Hope she gets the help she needs and stops living on that merry-go-round.
I can not speak for Sumter County Jail but most jails have a required AA program for those incarcerated on alcohol related offenses. I have a good friend who does a jail ministry in another state and those completing the AA 12 steps received time off their sentence. After they serve their time, it is their choice whether to drink again or not. Alcoholism is not a choice, but to drink or not drink IS a CHOICE.
  #41  
Old 07-31-2014, 11:08 AM
janmcn janmcn is offline
Sage
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,298
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr View Post
In the article, her husband says that this is the first time that she's ever been in trouble. I understand that she had two recent DUIs. Is that not being in trouble?

Of course none of us who weren't there know exactly what happened, but I have to wonder if they gave the arresting officers a bad time. If so, that may have influenced the judge in terms of sentencing. And don't forget, she was given a break here but getting "concurrent" 180 day sentences for this and for the DUI. Does anyone know how much time she will actually spend in jail? Often entire sentences are not served out in these kind of cases.

As far as damage done, I agree that no one was hurt and no property was damaged, but I do feel that a lot of damage was done to the reputation of our wonderful community. Could that have possibly been a factor in the sentencing?

Of course she should get help for alcoholism. But having a disease does not excuse bad or illegal behavior. You can't go out and commit a crime and be let off easy just by saying, "I'm an alcoholic". In fact one of the things preached by AA is that you have to take responsibility for your own actions. In fact loved ones of alcoholics are also taught not to give alcoholics a break and to allow the the dignity of suffering the consequences of their actions. The sentence may be the best thing that ever happened to her.


When judges start making their decisions not based on the law but on the reputation of a wonderful community, it is time for them to be impeached.
  #42  
Old 07-31-2014, 11:11 AM
perrjojo's Avatar
perrjojo perrjojo is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mission Hills
Posts: 2,294
Thanks: 226
Thanked 321 Times in 78 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by janmcn View Post
When judges start making their decisions not based on the law but on the reputation of a wonderful community, it is time for them to be impeached.
What is your basis for knowing this is what happened? I don't know that wasn't true but I certainly don't know that it is true.
  #43  
Old 07-31-2014, 11:11 AM
Dr Winston O Boogie jr's Avatar
Dr Winston O Boogie jr Dr Winston O Boogie jr is offline
Sage
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 7,940
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2,157 Times in 772 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zonerboy View Post
Whew! I feel much safer now. Much less chance of seeing any exposed genitals in my wanderings about The Villages.
Wouldn't want any grand kids to be scarred for life by seeing human body parts.
I don't think that it's a question of making us safer. Imprisonment usually has three purposes. One is to get dangerous people out of society and make us safer, the second is to try to rehabilitate these people and the third is to punish them. Her sentence is punishment and as has been pointed out, she was found guilty of three crimes and is lucky to be serving her sentences concurrently.
__________________
The Beatlemaniacs of The Villages meet every Friday 10:00am at the O'Dell Recreation Center.

"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend." - Thomas Jefferson to William Hamilton, April 22, 1800.
  #44  
Old 07-31-2014, 11:13 AM
Dr Winston O Boogie jr's Avatar
Dr Winston O Boogie jr Dr Winston O Boogie jr is offline
Sage
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 7,940
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2,157 Times in 772 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by janmcn View Post
When judges start making their decisions not based on the law but on the reputation of a wonderful community, it is time for them to be impeached.
I think that having victims impact statements is fairly common these days in court. The reason is that the damage to people or a community that some has caused should be taken into consideration when sentencing them. Just as priors is taken into consideration. This woman had a DUI, a probation violation and now this act.

Someone who commits a crime while on probation doesn't seem to have learned from their mistakes. I'm sure that was also taken into account in the sentencing.

And remember, this was a plea bargain. Imagine what she could have gotten.
__________________
The Beatlemaniacs of The Villages meet every Friday 10:00am at the O'Dell Recreation Center.

"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend." - Thomas Jefferson to William Hamilton, April 22, 1800.
  #45  
Old 07-31-2014, 11:16 AM
manaboutown manaboutown is offline
Sage
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NJ, NM, SC, PA, DC, MD, VA, NY, CA, ID and finally FL.
Posts: 7,885
Thanks: 14,354
Thanked 5,115 Times in 1,959 Posts
Default

Peggy did indeed damage the reputation of a wonderful community. If she gets into AA, gets herself a sponsor and works the program she will make amends in accordance with one of AA's 12 steps. I will not hold my breath but anything is possible.

If her family members got into Al-Anon they could learn about enablement and other behavioral issues as well as learn to cope with her substance abuse.

Let us hope there is no encore of the sex on the square event.
__________________
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine
Closed Thread


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 PM.