Trump reiterated his idea of forcibly rounding up all illegal immigrants in the USA and sending them away. He never said where they would be sent or how they would be sent.

This is a hare brained idea that would never work - even according to Bill O'Reilly.

Cruz also went with the idea of rounding up all illegals and shipping them off to somewhere that was never named nor by what method.

Two candidates with just a campaign promise that has not a snowball's chanceof ever happening.

Americans deserve better than Cruz, Trump, Carson, Fiorina, or Rubio.
Kasich looks the most rational choice.

So if we assume they would complete/build the wall.
That they begin enforcing the law and attempt to eliminate illegal entry.

That would send the message that we mean business.
Once these are either in place or on the way as part of a plan that will get it done, talking about going after the illegals already here adds to the resolve being placed on no illegals to be tolerated....enforce the laws.

Maybe they are smart enough to not say how or where because they know there will be some common sense applied to application of the law to those already here. And there will be varying categories of them requiring possible different solutions. However the common denominator will be they have to do something to get from where they are to being LEGAL!!!!

So I would not be so quick to jump to conclusion they literally mean herd 'em up and round 'em up! Some might think in a narrow chanel and pursue it that way.

What they are doing in communicating NO MORE ILLEGALS ALLOWED!

Why should they compromise up front....they have the majority on their side to eliminate illgal immigration. That the laws of the land will be enforced. The exceptions, if any, will come as part of an overall plan.

The clamour to round 'em up is nothing but a scare tactic. One for the illegals. The other for the opposition to hope to gather more votes.

So how about a discussion of the merits of eliminating illegal immigration?

Round up the illegals is not impossible. Only liberal socialists and liberal Republicans think it's too hard. IF they think it is impossible then they are not my candidate. I can understand liberals saying it's impossible, because everything is impossible for them. That's why they are so needy; they're lazy. We have had presidents in the past that have rounded them up and deported them. There are several ways of accomplishing this feat.

One way is to start charging a jailing anyone that knowingly hires illegals. No jobs, the illegals either starve of return home. Free one way bus vouchers could be offered to any illegals that turn themselves in for voluntary deportation. Laws would be enforced that prohibited any educational institution from allowing enrollment of illegals. No state would be allowed to issue drivers licenses. All of these could be instituted and force a stop to illegal migration.

And the wall would assist future invasion of the illegals.

Liberals would insist that this would be easy, if it was their idea. But, it is hard to build a voter base once the ignorant become educated and see that liberals insist on enslaving the lower class. Liberals figure it will take a while for illegals to become educated to our ways, so they would have their voter base for a while longer.

Originally Posted by Guest

Round up the illegals is not impossible. Only liberal socialists and liberal Republicans think it's too hard. IF they think it is impossible then they are not my candidate. I can understand liberals saying it's impossible, because everything is impossible for them. That's why they are so needy; they're lazy. We have had presidents in the past that have rounded them up and deported them. There are several ways of accomplishing this feat.

One way is to start charging a jailing anyone that knowingly hires illegals. No jobs, the illegals either starve of return home. Free one way bus vouchers could be offered to any illegals that turn themselves in for voluntary deportation. Laws would be enforced that prohibited any educational institution from allowing enrollment of illegals. No state would be allowed to issue drivers licenses. All of these could be instituted and force a stop to illegal migration.

And the wall would assist future invasion of the illegals.

Liberals would insist that this would be easy, if it was their idea. But, it is hard to build a voter base once the ignorant become educated and see that liberals insist on enslaving the lower class. Liberals figure it will take a while for illegals to become educated to our ways, so they would have their voter base for a while longer.

Bee-eye-en-gee-oh!!!!

Give all of us your knowledge on the number of illegal immigrants who vote in our Federal elections. To make a statement like you did in your post, you have to have the figures or it would make you a liar - and you certainly are not a liar.

Give us those figures so we all can be as knowledgable as you.

Originally Posted by Guest

Round up the illegals is not impossible. Only liberal socialists and liberal Republicans think it's too hard. IF they think it is impossible then they are not my candidate. I can understand liberals saying it's impossible, because everything is impossible for them. That's why they are so needy; they're lazy. We have had presidents in the past that have rounded them up and deported them. There are several ways of accomplishing this feat.

One way is to start charging a jailing anyone that knowingly hires illegals. No jobs, the illegals either starve of return home. Free one way bus vouchers could be offered to any illegals that turn themselves in for voluntary deportation. Laws would be enforced that prohibited any educational institution from allowing enrollment of illegals. No state would be allowed to issue drivers licenses. All of these could be instituted and force a stop to illegal migration.

And the wall would assist future invasion of the illegals.

Liberals would insist that this would be easy, if it was their idea. But, it is hard to build a voter base once the ignorant become educated and see that liberals insist on enslaving the lower class. Liberals figure it will take a while for illegals to become educated to our ways, so they would have their voter base for a while longer.

Originally Posted by Guest

Give all of us your knowledge on the number of illegal immigrants who vote in our Federal elections. To make a statement like you did in your post, you have to have the figures or it would make you a liar - and you certainly are not a liar.

Give us those figures so we all can be as knowledgable as you.

Your question was not aimed at me, but just to maybe add to the conversation...the last estimate I saw was about 3/4 million or so by this group....CCES.

That is done very unscientific, and it is not a number I would quote.

I frankly think it is much larger.

What might stop an illegal immigrant in a state with no voter or registration control ? All they need to do is sign a statement and nothing more. In a state with ID laws, it is a bit more difficult, but we all know about the phony drivers liscenses that keep turning up.

Not that difficult, and once we make everything fron registration to voting on line, all bets are off.

Heck, the Chinese government, the Iranians have already hacked us. Do you really think that they do not have the capability to commit fraud from afar ?

Originally Posted by Guest

Give all of us your knowledge on the number of illegal immigrants who vote in our Federal elections. To make a statement like you did in your post, you have to have the figures or it would make you a liar - and you certainly are not a liar.

Give us those figures so we all can be as knowledgable as you.

Tell you what, you start a photo voter ID program and then we can tell if anyone is voting illegally, OK?

I imagine that you might want to bone up on the latest current events regarding how this administration is attempting to circumvent congress in making immigration law by EO, and about how you liberals wish to give them all the benefits of a citizen, such as drivers license, health care insurance, social security, etc. Do a bit of reading before making snarky replies....or not. I'm not a liberal so I won't hold you to PC. Non-PC is sometimes entertaining. Of course, only conservatives are held to the rule of PC.

I am struck by the rush to take Trump so literally. I am certainly not a fan of Trump, but what other promises have been made by both parties that have been taken so literally.

Recall this one.....This is a little bit of a news item from 2009

"President Barack Obama seems to leave little room for doubt when he promises that his health care plan will let people keep the coverage they have. His vow sounds reassuring and gets applause, but no president could guarantee such a pledge."

Promises: Obama's Health Plan Guarantee - Politics - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

These "promises" cannot be taken literally at all. In many cases, the promises exceed the power of the presidency.

Instead the focus should be on the leadership skills, general concepts, and ability to work with both parties.

If we are going to spend time discussing every promise or every statement, we will be wasting all our time. Each of them DO however give us a flavor of what that candidate thinks on many issues.

Bottom line key word (ILLEGAL) I have no problem with legal immigration. I think everyone living in TV would be surprised how many illegals are in this area. No I dont have a number but before I quit working this year there were many working at a hotel here in The Villages. And you would be surprised how they got around the legal system.

I would like to hear Rubio, Cruz, etc. tell us what they think is fair about simply fining and requiring that the illegals learn English that are here and have been for years while there are so many working their butts off to try and enter LEGALLY. That has been Trump's stand on immigration and there are many legally here that agree with him and support his policy. Not only does the ILLEGAL hiring of the illegals impact American jobs, but legal immigrant jobs as well. People entering legally must learn English as one of their requirements.

I don't think anyone, including Trump, is advocating shipping them off to some island(s) in the middle of nowhere. Just send them back home instead of letting them stay here, taking care of them, all the while they send money back home. How can that possibly help or contribute to this country's economy?

It is my understanding is that amnesty is when someone ASKS our federal government for asylum and entry into this country. Am I missing something?

Did Rubio and Cruz parents come here legally? Did they go through the process or ask permission to be granted entry?

I don't know of anyone who is against LEGAL immigration......just the illegal sneaks that come in and then this country takes from our own seniors, etc., and well as from those who have come in legally, to take care of them. Interpreters should be used for clarification ONLY....not primary communication.

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump reiterated his idea of forcibly rounding up all illegal immigrants in the USA and sending them away. He never said where they would be sent or how they would be sent.

This is a hare brained idea that would never work - even according to Bill O'Reilly.

Cruz also went with the idea of rounding up all illegals and shipping them off to somewhere that was never named nor by what method.

Two candidates with just a campaign promise that has not a snowball's chanceof ever happening.

Americans deserve better than Cruz, Trump, Carson, Fiorina, or Rubio.
Kasich looks the most rational choice.

Of course it can be done. Ike did it in the '50's! I find that people who say can't are usually too lazy to try!

For all those compassionate liberals on this site, you need to ask yourself a very valid question....Why do I have to press 1 for English?

Originally Posted by Guest

I would like to hear Rubio, Cruz, etc. tell us what they think is fair about simply fining and requiring that the illegals learn English that are here and have been for years while there are so many working their butts off to try and enter LEGALLY. That has been Trump's stand on immigration and there are many legally here that agree with him and support his policy. Not only does the ILLEGAL hiring of the illegals impact American jobs, but legal immigrant jobs as well. People entering legally must learn English as one of their requirements.

I don't think anyone, including Trump, is advocating shipping them off to some island(s) in the middle of nowhere. Just send them back home instead of letting them stay here, taking care of them, all the while they send money back home. How can that possibly help or contribute to this country's economy?

It is my understanding is that amnesty is when someone ASKS our federal government for asylum and entry into this country. Am I missing something?

Did Rubio and Cruz parents come here legally? Did they go through the process or ask permission to be granted entry?

I don't know of anyone who is against LEGAL immigration......just the illegal sneaks that come in and then this country takes from our own seniors, etc., and well as from those who have come in legally, to take care of them. Interpreters should be used for clarification ONLY....not primary communication.

Originally Posted by Guest

For all those compassionate liberals on this site, you need to ask yourself a very valid question....Why do I have to press 1 for English?