Has anyone heard of this House Resolution?

HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009

Originally Posted by rshoffer

Has anyone heard of this House Resolution?

HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009

Typical go-nowhere bill sponsored by an inner-city politician trying to look law-and-order and protector of the neighborhood.

Voting for it would be the kiss-of-death for any rural or semi-rural politician - Democrat or Republican.

Originally Posted by rshoffer

Has anyone heard of this House Resolution?

HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009

I agree with SteveZ

The people want guns. The people are buying guns at a record pace.

Guns are the right of the American people. Our founders were very wise.

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition

Originally Posted by Yoda

I agree with SteveZ

The people want guns. The people are buying guns at a record pace.

Guns are the right of the American people. Our founders were very wise.

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition

Then why are we confiscating guns in Iraq and Afghanistan? I think they need the NRA's help. If someone invaded your country I'm sure you wouldn't give up your gun!

Originally Posted by vtcyclist

Then why are we confiscating guns in Iraq and Afghanistan? I think they need the NRA's help. If someone invaded your country I'm sure you wouldn't give up your gun!

Was that a serious question? I hope not.

Yoda

Originally Posted by Yoda

Was that a serious question? I hope not.

Yoda

As someone who had a concealed weapon pulled on them....I have a slightly different view.

I clearly will never understand why you need to take a concealed weapon into church or a bar.....

If it is concealed you would not know it so why do you care.

Originally Posted by cashman

If it is concealed you would not know it so why do you care.

That's a childish answer.

Originally Posted by cashman

If it is concealed you would not know it so why do you care.

You really should read the post before you respond. It was concealed until:

HE PULLED IT AND POINTED IT AT ME

I really cared when he did that.

Originally Posted by Yoda

Was that a serious question? I hope not.

Yoda

Dead serious, to quote you, "The people want guns. The people are buying guns at a record pace.
Guns are the right of the American people. Our founders were very wise."

So please explain why law-abiding Iraqis and the Afghans don't have the same rights as Americans to bear arms. I bet you wouldn't turn your guns in if we were invaded by foreigners.

Originally Posted by vtcyclist

Dead serious, to quote you, "The people want guns. The people are buying guns at a record pace.
Guns are the right of the American people. Our founders were very wise."

So please explain why law-abiding Iraqis and the Afghans don't have the same rights as Americans to bear arms. I bet you wouldn't turn your guns in if we were invaded by foreigners.

Do they have the same rights as Americans? If so and confiscation is not within the law. I guess I would be on their side. However, the last that I heard was that each Iraqi household was allowed to keep one AK-47 for home defense. In a war zone that does not seem that unreasonable.

Yoda

Originally Posted by cologal

As someone who had a concealed weapon pulled on them....I have a slightly different view.

I clearly will never understand why you need to take a concealed weapon into church or a bar.....

I do not know what you did to cause a lawful ccw carrier to point a gun at you. If he had no cause then that is assault, bring charges. If he was not lawful then your whole argument seems like a ploy to advance a liberal agenda.

Cologal, what's the rest of the story?

Yoda

citizen.....and member of several shooting organizations, world wide....I am aware of their almost impeccable record for safety.
I also understand there are abnormal incidents in any statistical universe...in this case those with CCW permits.

I would understand not wanting to discuss details of such a personal incident....but since it was offered for discourse it would be extremely helpful to understand how such an anomaly occurred.

btk

Originally Posted by Yoda

I do not know what you did to cause a lawful ccw carrier to point a gun at you. If he had no cause then that is assault, bring charges. If he was not lawful then your whole argument seems like a ploy to advance a liberal agenda.

Cologal, what's the rest of the story?

Yoda

I will say this in a general way and not pointed at Yoda....

If you look at the post I have to be in the wrong either I did something wrong to provoke the gun owner into pulling a gun or if he didn't have a license then it doesn't matter that he pulled the gun and I am just a liberal blowing smoke.

The point is HE DID HAVE A GUN IN HIS FANNY PACK AND HE PULLED IT OUT If he had shot and killed me would I be any less dead because he didn't have a license?

To answer the question what did I do?

I saw the man throwing rocks at a dog as I was driving by. I rolled down my window and told him to stop. I won't repeat what he replied. Nonplussed I pulled over, got out of my gun and got between him and the dog. Again told him to stop....when I turned around to return to my car he pulled the gun, in a true cowardly fashion. When I turned back I was looking at a BIG silver gun.

The rest of the story is I followed him home...then went to the police station reported the issue and ultimately he spent the weekend in jail because he couldn't make bail. So I did bring charges....even came home to testify but they gave him a plea deal....don't know what it was cause no one called me to let me know.

I will say again...On a liberal scale I am center left. Socially liberal and financially conservative.

Originally Posted by cologal

I will say this in a general way and not pointed at Yoda....

If you look at the post I have to be in the wrong either I did something wrong to provoke the gun owner into pulling a gun or if he didn't have a license then it doesn't matter that he pulled the gun and I am just a liberal blowing smoke.

The point is HE DID HAVE A GUN IN HIS FANNY PACK AND HE PULLED IT OUT If he had shot and killed me would I be any less dead because he didn't have a license?

To answer the question what did I do?

I saw the man throwing rocks at a dog as I was driving by. I rolled down my window and told him to stop. I won't repeat what he replied. Nonplussed I pulled over, got out of my gun and got between him and the dog. Again told him to stop....when I turned around to return to my car he pulled the gun, in a true cowardly fashion. When I turned back I was looking at a BIG silver gun.

The rest of the story is I followed him home...then went to the police station reported the issue and ultimately he spent the weekend in jail because he couldn't make bail. So I did bring charges....even came home to testify but they gave him a plea deal....don't know what it was cause no one called me to let me know.

I will say again...On a liberal scale I am center left. Socially liberal and financially conservative.

I presume that you got out of youi car, not out of your gun. It sounds like you did nothing wrong. You took a chance. Azzholes are everywhere. There are people who should not carry guns, legal or otherwise. I have carried a gun since I was 21. I shot my first person when I was 21. I shot my last person when I was 21. Same guy. He tried to split my head with a crow bar. I was in uniform. I have protected or saved several people over the years with a gun . I would rather have a gun to defend myself from an azz with a gun than than try to outlaw guns. That would be like outlawing sex to protect against aids. It just won't work.

Yoda