Not knowing anything about the guy I just googled his name. The only thing I can say after reviewing his so called "past"....what is it that I am missing when the POTUS annoints a person of this character to one of his loyal direct reports?

I do need to be enlightened. It is rather disturbing that this could be done so blatantly by Obama. What is the message?

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

Not knowing anything about the guy I just googled his name. The only thing I can say after reviewing his so called "past"....what is it that I am missing when the POTUS annoints a person of this character to one of his loyal direct reports?

I do need to be enlightened. It is rather disturbing that this could be done so blatantly by Obama. What is the message?

btk

I don't think that we have seen anything yet. POTUS Obama is just getting warmed up.

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition

It all evens out. According to VK, GW was just as radicle on the right as BO is on the left. Of course I don't recall GW firing CEO's, nationalizing banks, auto industries, appointing dozens of czars and having Communists as political advisers. None the less GW was no saint but he's no radicle either. Although I guess these days if you embrace freedom, capitalism, right to life and smaller government you are a radicle.

There is no right and wrong, no good and evil, it's all ok one way or another... to some.

Nothing in this administration resembles anything even remotely American.

Obama and his closest advisors mind set when they were in the decision process to appoint Jones and others like him.
They clearly understand how things work. They clearly must have understood the risks to a background like Jones'. They knew for certain an individual with a background like Jones would not, could not pass under the scrutiny of a Congressional or Senate review.

Yet it was done anyway. That should bother ALL Americans.

Out of all the millions of qualified people to be able to do whatever that position was tasked to do......why? WHY? Step out on a limb for Van Jones?

Because as he (Obama) states far too often, "I am the President"!

We the people should raise substantial amounts of furor with our representatives and the media until it gets too loud even for Obama.

I would like to hear from a staunch Democrat who supports Obama on the person of Van Jones.

btk

Good idea and lets add all the tax cheaters and other socialists appointed by obama.

Originally Posted by billethkid

I would like to hear from a staunch Democrat who supports Obama on the person of Van Jones.

btk

You will be waiting a long time.

OK, I'm wading into murky waters here, but I automatically discount anything that Glen Beck or Rush Limbaug have to say about anything! When Beck was pressed by Jon Stewart about his "facts or truth telling" Beck said, "I'm not a reporter, I'm a commentator." That told me a lot. He really doesn't feel he has to back up his tirades with facts at all.

Times are changing and this is the one thing the extreme right is not getting! Soon, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, Republican or Democrat, that didn't have some kind of a past coming out of the 60's and 70's. Whether it be drugs or alcoholism (Bush) or a tie to some radical group. It was a turbulent time. Why I remember that wearing army shirts and fake bullet belts with jeans was the fashion for awhile. I can't speak for small rural towns, but certainly in urban areas.

And it's going to get worse. Soon... maybe not in our years, but in years to come... you won't be able to find a person without a relative or friend tied to some gang. And drugs are still running rampant. Look at Michael Phelps.

People are changing, demographics are changing. And all the extreme right is doing is yelling, like the Wicked Witch in the Wizard of Oz... because they are shrinking. "I'm melting...I'm melting."

No, sorry, I don't think that Van Jones will lose his job. Nor do I think he should. At least not over anything Glen Beck has to say.

http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-Polit...e-disappointed

So even though VJ's history is factually true and there for all to see you still dismiss it?

Soon, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, Republican or Democrat, that didn't have some kind of a past coming out of the 60's and 70's.

That's about as cynical a statement I've ever heard. I'd venture to say that most coming out of the 60's or 70's are not radicle Communist activists. But I guess even if they were you'd be ok with them running our government. wow #1

And it's going to get worse. Soon... maybe not in our years, but in years to come... you won't be able to find a person without a relative or friend tied to some gang.

All I can say to that is WOW #2 Guess I hang with a different crowd because I don't know any and doubt I ever will. Not in my circle of family and friends.

Originally Posted by dklassen

So even though VJ's history is factually true and there for all to see you still dismiss it?



That's about as cynical a statement I've ever heard. I'd venture to say that most coming out of the 60's or 70's are not radicle Communist activists.



All I can say to that is WOW! Guess I hang with a different crowd because I don't know any and doubt I ever will. Not in my circle of family and friends.

Jones just resigned. That should make you very happy. Now you can sleep better knowing some "communist" is not going to come knocking at your door.

If there's one thing I'm not... It's cynical! I have the "audacity of hope" always. Remember?

However, I am a realist. I specifically said, "perhaps not in our years... but soon." Yet, I commend you on having such squeeky clean people around you. So, no one you know, are related to, or ever hung around with -- even for a brief time -- has any skeletons in their closet? hmmmm.... I guess we'll never know because they're not in the public eye. Welllllll... maybe I am a little cynical ... because I could swear I hear bones rattling!

We can thank Glenn Beck and his watchdogs for outing this "czar" and others surrounding POTUS. We all need to watch and support Beck on Fox News because he is unafraid to show us the truth in "their" own words.
Mrs tghoul

Jones has resigned in name only. As gibbs admitted even tho jones resigned he continues to work for the government and in paticular for obama and his plans to "change" america.

Now you can sleep better knowing some "communist" is not going to come knocking at your door.

I will sleep better, only 20 or 30 more to go.

Yet, I commend you on having such squeeky clean people around you. So, no one you know, are related to, or ever hung around with -- even for a brief time -- has any skeletons in their closet? hmmmm..

Well, I can honestly say that absolutely none of my friends or family are radicles, gang members, communists, socialists or tax cheats.

As for skeletons? I did have an uncle once that voted Democrat but we forgave him.

allows some to vent on him and distort the intention of the thread. I guess fortunately or not, I did not hear it from Glenn Beck, but did google as well as other research. There is ONLY one litany after another about the man's hatred for whites and hatred for America....a bonifide, multiple source confirmation being a radicle activists in his beliefs.

The profile of way too many of the incumbents in political office today is bad enough and they need to be replaced. In their defense, none could be bad enough to match Jones' dis-qualifications. The man would not, could not pass any investigative process. There is no way he would be elected to anything by we the people.

And I am glad to see we the people begin to speak up.

The party line on Jones is typical of most executive situations where folks are actually going to be fired, but to make it palatable for their futures they are given the opportunity to resign. Then the smoothing external announcement that they will still be around.....which they will not. Except for perhaps some investigation into him further.

Unfortunately Obama will slip away with almost no criticism or investigation as to why he would appoint some one such as Van Jones, KNOWING his back ground. Ooops, I stand corrected. He was appointed because Obama did know his background.

At some point the Obamas pasts in conjunction with example after example of the types he has surrounded himself in the past, match the types he is currently surrounding himself with. This accumulation of character (or not) will weigh heavily against him in his remaining years as POTUS and possibly assure a one term presidency.

With millions to choose from, why would anybody choose the likes of Van Jones for anything. This should not be a partisan issue at all. Dregs are dregs regardless ones affiliation!!!

btk

Originally Posted by billethkid

allows some to vent on him and distort the intention of the thread. I guess fortunately or not, I did not hear it from Glenn Beck, but did google as well as other research. There is ONLY one litany after another about the man's hatred for whites and hatred for America....a bonifide, multiple source confirmation being a radicle activists in his beliefs.

The profile of way too many of the incumbents in political office today is bad enough and they need to be replaced. In their defense, none could be bad enough to match Jones' dis-qualifications. The man would not, could not pass any investigative process. There is no way he would be elected to anything by we the people.

And I am glad to see we the people begin to speak up.

The party line on Jones is typical of most executive situations where folks are actually going to be fired, but to make it palatable for their futures they are given the opportunity to resign. Then the smoothing external announcement that they will still be around.....which they will not. Except for perhaps some investigation into him further.

Unfortunately Obama will slip away with almost no criticism or investigation as to why he would appoint some one such as Van Jones, KNOWING his back ground. Ooops, I stand corrected. He was appointed because Obama did know his background.

At some point the Obamas pasts in conjunction with example after example of the types he has surrounded himself in the past, match the types he is currently surrounding himself with. This accumulation of character (or not) will weigh heavily against him in his remaining years as POTUS and possibly assure a one term presidency.

With millions to choose from, why would anybody choose the likes of Van Jones for anything. This should not be a partisan issue at all. Dregs are dregs regardless ones affiliation!!!

btk

HIS ENTIRE LIFE...ALL of it...he has associated with radicals, followed radical thinking. It is only since his campaign for the WH that he had anyone on his staff or around him who MIGHT be considered non radical.

Before CHELS jumps in and proclaims how wonderful it is to be radical and that there is nothing wrong with it OR that everyone who walks now will have this kind of stuff in their background...I respectfully submit that the radicals our President is enamored with were unamiously anti america and most flirted with or were blatant communists !

Bucco, you've been hell bent on the character assassination of President Obama since day one. I'm quite sure you don't even believe he was born in America. Well, that's your prerogative.

But here's the thing you're reeeeeally wrong on. I'm not a radical. And as stated before, I'm not cynical. And I'm not an extremist. In fact, I'm not even sure what the difference is between a radical and an extremist. I'm a realist. I'm not looking for conspiracy theories around every corner. I don't for one minute think this country is being steered toward socialism or communism. I don't for one minute think anyone wants to "pull the plug on Grandma." This kind of silly rethortic makes my toes curl!

My hope is that when Obama lays out his plans on Wednesday, he will indeed, include such things as allowing people to buy insurance across state lines, boosting competition. (Romney) and some tax credits for businesses (McCain) and especially pay-for-performance. If you don't think our doctors and health care system in general has gotten slovenly and greedy, you're not looking hard enough. However, I'm not going to give up on a Public Option and I will be very disappointed in him if he does. I won't mind if it's delayed and not taken on at this time, but brought up again in the near future. I get it, give and take. But, I do believe that good Health Care should be a right of every American.

I guess my point is that I sincerely feel that President Obama tries to work across party lines and my guess is his final decision will be something from both sides of the aisle. And that's OK. My grip is with the Republicans (and don't fool yourself, they're out there) that will categorically oppose any and everything put out by this Administration. The Republicans haven't been labeled the party of "NO" by accident.

I'm not going to sit here and defend Van Jones. Quite frankly, he could have been the best man for the job, but I personally don't know that. What I can't tolerate is all of this character assassination. It's slimy and insulting to the American public in general. I don't care what side of the aisle does it.

And before you say it, yes, I stand guilty of the same thing. I will take that responsibility for some of my previous posts. I've always been the kind of person that when proven wrong will be the first to admit it, or the first to apologize.

But, lately I've been wondering.... When did this country get so mean-spirited? Maybe that's a question we should debate.