[Tblue]

How about all networks post the number of illegals entering the country. Maybe a little screen in the upper right hand corner of the television screen. Much like the running total of COVID deaths, the daily COVID death count and new cases of COVID. Maybe two or three numbers, maybe the number of known illegals who have entered, an estimated total number of illegals and maybe a third number of how many tested negative for COVID?

[JMintzer]

Like that'll ever happen...

[Topspinmo]

Not going to happen. Headline news opening Covid-19 death counts stopped in middle of January.

[GrumpyOldMan]

It is not going to happen because it will not make money for the people distributing it.

And personally, I don't care - I have researched it, and the total number of "illegals" at this point is estimated to be around 10 to 15 million, and their economic contribution more than outweighs their economic costs. There is no evidence they impact elections (other than abstractly, meaning people vote on border security or against it, not there is no evidence enough illegals vote to make any difference in elections.)

[Taltarzac725]

Immigration Data and Statistics | Homeland Security

Some of that information is available.

[Love2Swim]

Another post designed to stir up trouble? someone must really be bored.....yawn.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Not going to happen. Headline news opening Covid-19 death counts stopped in middle of January.

I wonder why?

[MrFlorida]

It does not fit their agenda, you will never see it.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

It is not going to happen because it will not make money for the people distributing it.

And personally, I don't care - I have researched it, and the total number of "illegals" at this point is estimated to be around 10 to 15 million, and their economic contribution more than outweighs their economic costs. There is no evidence they impact elections (other than abstractly, meaning people vote on border security or against it, not there is no evidence enough illegals vote to make any difference in elections.)

How 'bout some links to that "research"?

Otherwise, it's just an opinion...

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Another post designed to stir up trouble? someone must really be bored.....yawn.

Typical from OP…….another pot stirring post with no value………

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

How 'bout some links to that "research"?

Otherwise, it's just an opinion...

Which items, I will be glad to provide links. However, I can not prove a negative, so if you are asking about elections, I can't prove they don't influence them, that would be on someone else to prove they do - some (many?) have tried, none have succeeded to prove massive fraud (sufficient to affect the outcome) - yet.

As to the economic impact and numbers here is a report by Brooking Edu.

How many undocumented immigrants are in the United States and who are they?

[retiredguy123]

OP, what do you mean by "illegals"? It seems to me that the people who claim asylum and are released into the country are not illegal. They are legal residents. The unaccompanied minors and others who are allowed to stay are also legal residents. And, those that are apprehended, but released by the Government without deportation, are legal residents. I think that anyone who is processed by the Government and allowed to stay is a legal resident. Also, if the Government passes a law to provide the 10-12 million estimated illegal residents a "pathway" to citizenship, then those people would immediately become legal residents because they could not be deported.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Which items, I will be glad to provide links. However, I can not prove a negative, so if you are asking about elections, I can't prove they don't influence them, that would be on someone else to prove they do - some (many?) have tried, none have succeeded to prove massive fraud (sufficient to affect the outcome) - yet.

As to the economic impact and numbers here is a report by Brooking Edu.

How many undocumented immigrants are in the United States and who are they?

The question was how many are entering... Not how many may already be here and not what is the perceived cost/value ratio...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

OP, what do you mean by "illegals"? It seems to me that the people who claim asylum and are released into the country are not illegal. They are legal residents. The unaccompanied minors and others who are allowed to stay are also legal residents. And, those that are apprehended, but released by the Government without deportation, are legal residents. I think that anyone who is processed by the Government and allowed to stay is a legal resident. Also, if the Government passes a law to provide the 10-12 million estimated illegal residents a "pathway" to citizenship, then those people would immediately become legal residents because they could not be deported.

You think incorrectly...

They are given court dates to determine their legality...

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You think incorrectly...

They are given court dates to determine their legality...

Well, you are both right.

The law specifically allows for anyone that reaches American soil to request asylum and they are supposed to be given a court date to determine if they can stay. So, the court date is to determine if they can stay legally. But, until the court date, they are technically here "legally" applying for asylum.

The court system is completely broken and can take 2 to 3 years (or longer) to hear the case. So, the court has to option to lock them up and pay incarceration fees or let them lose (hall pass) until the case can be seen.

IF politicians wanted to solve the "illegal immigrant" problem on the border the first and obvious step would be to fix the court system so the person/people seeking asylum would have their case heard the same day or within days.

I am pretty sure we will NEVER see a solution, it is way too juicy a topic for politicians to run on for or against. So, they will never solve it, simply keep it around to help stir up the base (both sides.)

And if you think this is new, try again, in the 1930s the exact same things were going on, and "they" tried rounding them up and deporting them with disastrous results.