R I P Jimmy Carter R I P Jimmy Carter - Talk of The Villages Florida

R I P Jimmy Carter

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12-29-2024, 06:15 PM
manaboutown manaboutown is offline
Sage
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NJ, NM, SC, PA, DC, MD, VA, NY, CA, ID and finally FL.
Posts: 7,851
Thanks: 14,294
Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,947 Posts
Default R I P Jimmy Carter

Jimmy Carter, 39th president of the United States, dead at 100 | Fox News
__________________
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine
  #2  
Old 12-29-2024, 06:20 PM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 52,098
Thanks: 11,545
Thanked 4,083 Times in 2,474 Posts
Default

R.I.P.

Great man. Not saying anything more.

Last edited by Taltarzac725; 12-29-2024 at 07:52 PM.
  #3  
Old 12-29-2024, 06:57 PM
Ecuadog's Avatar
Ecuadog Ecuadog is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Limbo
Posts: 2,531
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,241 Times in 583 Posts
Default

Rest in peace.
  #4  
Old 12-29-2024, 07:34 PM
Normal's Avatar
Normal Normal is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,470
Thanks: 5,319
Thanked 1,827 Times in 889 Posts
Default Billy Beer

I’ll remember him for Billy Beer and the “Carter Quarter” Susan B that is now worth 5.54 because of inflation. At the time he was elected, American wanted anyone on the planet besides Nixon’s Ford. By default he won and he kept us out of conflicts when we were so war tired from greedy LBJ’s mess. What was the lesser of two evils turned out to be a gem in the rough.

RIP
__________________
Everywhere

“ Hope Smiles from the threshold of the year to come, Whispering 'it will be happier'.”—-Tennyson

Borta bra men hemma bäst

Last edited by Normal; 12-29-2024 at 08:41 PM.
  #5  
Old 12-29-2024, 08:05 PM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,345
Thanks: 8,294
Thanked 11,508 Times in 3,871 Posts
Default

He was a decent President - who was up against some insane challenges that happened while he was President, but not "because" he was President. He handled some of them well - such as ending the war between Egypt and Israel, strengthening America's position against Russian nuclear weapons. Some not so well - he and Congress had a tumultuous relationship and he often would snipe at them. He floundered during the Iran oil strike/energy crisis/inflation, which culminated in one recession caused by the Federal Reserve's monetary policies. Then a second recession caused by a shift to another extreme set of policies by the Federal Reserve. In other words - it happened on Carter's watch. But Carter didn't cause it or create it. He just got stuck holding the bag, so to speak.

But he was one of the Great Humanitarians of the last century, beginning in his childhood during Segregation, when he defied his father's wishes and befriended black workers on the farm - and worked WITH them because he considered himself to be their equal, not their superior, throughout his life serving his local community, and post-Presidency continuing his peace missions and direct personal involvement in Habitat for Humanity, even into his 90's. He was a life-long servant of the people.
  #6  
Old 12-29-2024, 08:39 PM
badkarma318's Avatar
badkarma318 badkarma318 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 194
Thanks: 16
Thanked 183 Times in 82 Posts
Default

I give him credit for having the stones to approve Operation Eagle Claw (Delta's mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran). Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.
  #7  
Old 12-29-2024, 08:40 PM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 52,098
Thanks: 11,545
Thanked 4,083 Times in 2,474 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby View Post
He was a decent President - who was up against some insane challenges that happened while he was President, but not "because" he was President. He handled some of them well - such as ending the war between Egypt and Israel, strengthening America's position against Russian nuclear weapons. Some not so well - he and Congress had a tumultuous relationship and he often would snipe at them. He floundered during the Iran oil strike/energy crisis/inflation, which culminated in one recession caused by the Federal Reserve's monetary policies. Then a second recession caused by a shift to another extreme set of policies by the Federal Reserve. In other words - it happened on Carter's watch. But Carter didn't cause it or create it. He just got stuck holding the bag, so to speak.

But he was one of the Great Humanitarians of the last century, beginning in his childhood during Segregation, when he defied his father's wishes and befriended black workers on the farm - and worked WITH them because he considered himself to be their equal, not their superior, throughout his life serving his local community, and post-Presidency continuing his peace missions and direct personal involvement in Habitat for Humanity, even into his 90's. He was a life-long servant of the people.
Well said. Got some nice responses from him and his wife to my various letters about different topics. He loved humanity. Often a hard thing to do. He and his wife did it with great grace.
  #8  
Old 12-30-2024, 12:35 AM
Topspinmo's Avatar
Topspinmo Topspinmo is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 15,130
Thanks: 7,606
Thanked 6,256 Times in 3,227 Posts
Default

I was in military while he was president, couldn’t get 15 cent O-rings or 5 dollar gaskets to build jet engines, couldn’t meet our war readiness spares so we were on 12 shifts 7 days a week twiddling our thumbs for months. This was right after Vietnam war and every B52 engine had to be completely rebuild due to salt air rotted out stator compressor vanes. There reason he lost. Personally I think he’s not bad person just il informed with other priorities and military wasn’t one of them IMO.
  #9  
Old 12-30-2024, 02:24 AM
Caymus Caymus is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,257
Thanks: 22
Thanked 1,138 Times in 559 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by badkarma318 View Post
I give him credit for having the stones to approve Operation Eagle Claw (Delta's mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran). Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.
Due to problems, he created by not supporting the Shah of Iran and not adequately maintaining the military.
  #10  
Old 12-30-2024, 05:23 AM
Rainger99 Rainger99 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 2,710
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2,068 Times in 961 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by badkarma318 View Post
Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.
You say they didn’t fail?
Interesting spin.

It’s like saying White Star didn’t fail in Titanic’s attempt to break the record for a transatlantic crossing because the ship sank.
  #11  
Old 12-30-2024, 05:42 AM
jbartle1 jbartle1 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 263
Thanks: 30
Thanked 267 Times in 109 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby View Post
He was a decent President - who was up against some insane challenges that happened while he was President, but not "because" he was President. He handled some of them well - such as ending the war between Egypt and Israel, strengthening America's position against Russian nuclear weapons. Some not so well - he and Congress had a tumultuous relationship and he often would snipe at them. He floundered during the Iran oil strike/energy crisis/inflation, which culminated in one recession caused by the Federal Reserve's monetary policies. Then a second recession caused by a shift to another extreme set of policies by the Federal Reserve. In other words - it happened on Carter's watch. But Carter didn't cause it or create it. He just got stuck holding the bag, so to speak.

But he was one of the Great Humanitarians of the last century, beginning in his childhood during Segregation, when he defied his father's wishes and befriended black workers on the farm - and worked WITH them because he considered himself to be their equal, not their superior, throughout his life serving his local community, and post-Presidency continuing his peace missions and direct personal involvement in Habitat for Humanity, even into his 90's. He was a life-long servant of the people.
I agree, a GREAT humanitarian! Never LIED to American people
  #12  
Old 12-30-2024, 07:51 AM
BrianL99 BrianL99 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 3,508
Thanks: 296
Thanked 3,407 Times in 1,345 Posts
Default

He was by far, the most incompetent President of the last 50 years.

After 2 years of bungling the Iran Hostage situation, it took Ronald Reagan only a few hours to have the hostages freed.

He gave away the Panama Canal, after campaigning on a platform that aggressively condemned any plans to give up the Canal Zone.

Then he was one of the few former Presidents who actively sought to undermine subsequent Presidents, with his constant meddling in foreign affairs.

Of any President in the last 50 years, he was the one most disliked by the agency we pay to protect our Presidents.

His legacy is that of a bumbling fool, who was only elected because the prior President couldn't get elected dog catcher, after his short term in office and pardoning of Nixon.
  #13  
Old 12-30-2024, 08:44 AM
Taltarzac725's Avatar
Taltarzac725 Taltarzac725 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 52,098
Thanks: 11,545
Thanked 4,083 Times in 2,474 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by badkarma318 View Post
I give him credit for having the stones to approve Operation Eagle Claw (Delta's mission to rescue the hostages being held in Iran). Contrary to popular belief, the members of Delta did not "fail" - they never got the chance to carry out their mission, due to aircraft-related problems/tragedy at the Desert One staging area.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 View Post
He was by far, the most incompetent President of the last 50 years.

After 2 years of bungling the Iran Hostage situation, it took Ronald Reagan only a few hours to have the hostages freed.

He gave away the Panama Canal, after campaigning on a platform that aggressively condemned any plans to give up the Canal Zone.

Then he was one of the few former Presidents who actively sought to undermine subsequent Presidents, with his constant meddling in foreign affairs.

Of any President in the last 50 years, he was the one most disliked by the agency we pay to protect our Presidents.

His legacy is that of a bumbling fool, who was only elected because the prior President couldn't get elected dog catcher, after his short term in office and pardoning of Nixon.
He is ranked around 24th of 46 Presidents by historians. And he had little power to interfer in foreign affairs. He also liked to interact a lot with regular people rather than rich people and foreign leaders. Probably a headache for the Secret Service with him building homes for people with next to nothing around the world.

A great man after being a mediocre POTUS.

Last edited by Taltarzac725; 12-30-2024 at 09:48 AM.
  #14  
Old 12-30-2024, 09:18 AM
ElDiabloJoe ElDiabloJoe is offline
Gold member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 1,479
Thanks: 104
Thanked 1,643 Times in 623 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianL99 View Post
...

Of any President in the last 50 years, he was the one most disliked by the agency we pay to protect our Presidents.
...
Oh, I think he was a close second to the Clintons Cabal.
__________________
Chino 1960's to 1976, Torrance, CA 1976-1983, 87-91, 94-98 / Frederick Co., MD 1983-1987/ Valencia, CA 1991-1994/ Brea, CA 1998-2002/ Dana Point, CA 2002-2019/ Knoxville, TN 2019-Current/ FL 2022-Current
  #15  
Old 12-30-2024, 09:24 AM
manaboutown manaboutown is offline
Sage
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NJ, NM, SC, PA, DC, MD, VA, NY, CA, ID and finally FL.
Posts: 7,851
Thanks: 14,294
Thanked 5,090 Times in 1,947 Posts
Default

Well, my mother told me that if I could not say something nice to not say anything at all, so ....

Also to not speak ill of the dead
__________________
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine
Closed Thread

Tags
jimmy, carter


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 PM.